Why Islam Remains Peaceful

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I did not use a dictionary, Planten. I passed Arabic 101.

Wow. “Salaat” and “Zakaat” are so technical, huh? You probably can’t find such technical words with a five second search for Wiktionary, huh? Oh, wait…

Anyway, who cares. My only point is that Arabic- while incredibly beautiful, rich, and interesting- is not some sort of amazing super-portal to God or whatever, and it really does behave just like any other language of the world. You don’t need to make up folk etymologies for every little thing that tie into your Islamic supremacist worldview, and even if you feel the need to do that to try to spread your religion, you are barking up the wrong tree for that here anyway. So don’t say things that are demonstrably false with five seconds of research. Do the research yourself and bring actual facts to the table!

No harm done. You did not hurt my feelings.

“Christianity” suits me just fine. I am a Christian, and happy to be so called. What I wrote is what some scholars say it original meant, with backing from various events in the Bible. It is certainly not applied pejoratively today outside of some very specific contexts (by hardline anti-Christ Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Atheists, etc).

From what Christians I know from Iraq and Lebanon have told me, this term can be very negative depending on the context (it isn’t always, but it makes some people uncomfortable due to the history of Islamic usage). I have never heard any Arab Christian use it to define himself or herself (I usually have heard and read “Masihi”, and that is the word I have used when Arabs have asked me about my religion).

“Too much research into the meaning of things”…? What were we talking about, then?

No, thank you.
dzheremi, as expected you only managed to get a total blank from him.

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A couple of weeks ago we had Muslims in slaughter 500 mostly women and children in Nigeria.
We had Muslims rioting in Jerusalem in February this year. Today we got 100 Muslims going in to a church in Spain and disrupting people during prayers and attacking guards.

Here in California we have Muslims and their apologists going to have 2 weeks of a hate fest, antisemitism, on a UC campus in Irvine in May.

I can feel the peace.

I was amazed that the UC System is going to allow this. Hopefully, they will realize what is going on and put a halt to it. If they do have it we will be over there with some Jewish groups, Act for America and some others standing up for Israel and the Jews.
 
The following are excerpts from an interview with Father Shafiq Abu Zeid of Oxford University, which aired on ANB TV on January 4, 2010.

Father Shafiq Abu Zeid: We are very worried about our future and our fate. I recently participated in a discussion. I rebuked a friend for always saying that by maintaining contacts with the Israelis, Bachir Gemayel brought a catastrophe upon the Christians, who have been persecuted for this. I had a clear answer for him. What contacts with the Israelis did the Iraqi Christians have to warrant such disasters? I always say that the situation of the Christians in the region is misinterpreted.

Unfortunately, the Arab mentality, which prevails especially among our Muslim brothers, catches fire very quickly, like dry wood. The West, and people with vested interests, exploits this flammable mentality, and we pay the price. This holds true not only for the Christian minority, but also for Muslim minorities, like the Druze, the Alaouites, the Kurds, and so on.

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In Iraq, there is no comparison between the days of Saddam and today. The Christians were much better off in the days of Saddam. Therefore, with regard to the pan-Arab ideology of Abd Al-Nasser and Saddam – we were definitely better off.
 
Last year we had protests about the Israeli/Gaza war which was protesting the fact that Israel has a right to protect herself from the daily bombings that are aimed from the Gaza which by the way, have not stopped.

And we heard stuff like, ‘Jews, go back to the ovens!’.

This year we are starting off the new year with news that two UC campuses are fomenting hatred against the Jews, try to disrupt an Israel Ambassador from speaking, attacked a Jewish woman at UC Berkeley, tried to pass an unlawful bill to divest from Israel, and will soon have two weeks of unstopped hate fest at UC Irvine in May.

I wrote a letter to the UC system (several were cc’d in the email) asking why this event was even allowed to be planned.

Today I read this: ‘Jews, We need another Holocaust’. Why aren’t Muslims themselves stopping this stuff from happening if they are the ones telling us they are peaceful? We hear nothing from the literally hundreds of Muslim organizations, mosques, individuals, etc and if we do it is a lone cleric that no one wants to listen to and it is usually if we corner him.

The article has some very telling things in it that I notice are exactly what Sharia laws say for Muslims to do such as wage Jihad, war against the non-Muslims, etc.

I wonder why the Muslims themselves are not stopping the ‘no go’ zones that are now in the UK as they have taken hold in Europe.
 
Last year we had protests about the Israeli/Gaza war which was protesting the fact that Israel has a right to protect herself from the daily bombings that are aimed from the Gaza which by the way, have not stopped.

And we heard stuff like, ‘Jews, go back to the ovens!’.

This year we are starting off the new year with news that two UC campuses are fomenting hatred against the Jews, try to disrupt an Israel Ambassador from speaking, attacked a Jewish woman at UC Berkeley, tried to pass an unlawful bill to divest from Israel, and will soon have two weeks of unstopped hate fest at UC Irvine in May.

I wrote a letter to the UC system (several were cc’d in the email) asking why this event was even allowed to be planned.

Today I read this: ‘Jews, We need another Holocaust’. Why aren’t Muslims themselves stopping this stuff from happening if they are the ones telling us they are peaceful? We hear nothing from the literally hundreds of Muslim organizations, mosques, individuals, etc and if we do it is a lone cleric that no one wants to listen to and it is usually if we corner him.

The article has some very telling things in it that I notice are exactly what Sharia laws say for Muslims to do such as wage Jihad, war against the non-Muslims, etc.

I wonder why the Muslims themselves are not stopping the ‘no go’ zones that are now in the UK as they have taken hold in Europe.
qwerk, you are deep in politics for the Jews. You seem to be protesting about something. Islam is least political. Even though some Muslims try to even the score against their enemies. But Islam is not for politics.

It was good that Muslims never took away the government of the Jews at any time. It was the Romans who did it before birth of Jesus, or it were the Roman Catholics who deprived the Jews from their holy land. There was no Muhammad or Muslim at time.

Jews are a famous nation and very senior nation. According to the internatioanl law, every nation should have a home (or country). The Jews deserved to have a home. Quran is telling them about their promised land. But the Muslims did not try to accommodate the Jews in the holy land since 1000 years. That was not good.

I repeat that Muslims should keep away from too much politics. They should rather follow the teachings of Jesus. That would be of great benefit tot he Muslims. The policy should be good relations, love and respect for others, no conflict or confrontation, no suicidal bombing. i.e. live and let live. The more the Muslims go into politics or take up arms to start some religious war (Jihad), the more they will suffer.

I cannot describe it more than what I have done. Islam is a religion of Peace. The Muslims have to be peaceful at all times, all stages.
 
I repeat that Muslims should keep away from too much politics. They should rather follow the teachings of Jesus. That would be of great benefit tot he Muslims. The policy should be good relations, love and respect for others, no conflict or confrontation, no suicidal bombing. i.e. live and let live. The more the Muslims go into politics or take up arms to start some religious war (Jihad), the more they will suffer.
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Aha…👍
Now you talk!
 
qwerk, you are deep in politics for the Jews. You seem to be protesting about something. Islam is least political. Even though some Muslims try to even the score against their enemies. But Islam is not for politics.

It was good that Muslims never took away the government of the Jews at any time. It was the Romans who did it before birth of Jesus, or it were the Roman Catholics who deprived the Jews from their holy land. There was no Muhammad or Muslim at time.

Jews are a famous nation and very senior nation. According to the internatioanl law, every nation should have a home (or country). The Jews deserved to have a home. Quran is telling them about their promised land. But the Muslims did not try to accommodate the Jews in the holy land since 1000 years. That was not good.

I repeat that Muslims should keep away from too much politics. They should rather follow the teachings of Jesus. That would be of great benefit tot he Muslims. The policy should be good relations, love and respect for others, no conflict or confrontation, no suicidal bombing. i.e. live and let live. The more the Muslims go into politics or take up arms to start some religious war (Jihad), the more they will suffer.

I cannot describe it more than what I have done. Islam is a religion of Peace. The Muslims have to be peaceful at all times, all stages.
Islam is political planten. Yes, the followers of Muhammad did take governments away from many peoples and either forced them to convert, enslave them, kill them, or forced the accept subjugation. You do not know the history of Islam, as you do not know much of the Bible, Christianity, or your own Prophet.

You can repeat all you want, they are not doing it. They are embedding themselves into politics. This is what is bothering so many people. They use lawsuits, intimidation, even violence in too many instances that I just described to push themselves onto us. They could live here as long as they wanted to in peace but they are changing into something very distasteful to many people.

If you think that telling me what I want to hear is going to fix things, it won’t. When Muslims start reeling in their own is when it will get fixed.
 
Should admit that perhaps I was too optimistic that Planten would have some shed of light in his mine about the truth of the Lord Jesus, but too proud to dip fully into it.
I forgot that he was a guy of rather confused mind, holding onto something that only benefits him or his defense, especially regarding muslim being non political.

But I guess his suggestion on muslims to be non political has to be addressed to his supposed opinion ( if he only could) about the sharia law to be never enacted in any civilized country.

Can you do that Planten?😉
 
How do you speak to a follower of a religion that permits its followers to LIE THROUGH THEIR TEETH in their defence of the religion and themselves??? How?

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PS. Learn from Jesus. He speaks, He corrects and chastises, and then…He moves on. Spend time on saving those who can be saved. Not those who are damned.
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How do you speak to a follower of a religion that permits its followers to LIE THROUGH THEIR TEETH in their defence of the religion and themselves??? How?

muslimsopenyoureyes.blogspot.com

PS. Learn from Jesus. He speaks, He corrects and chastises, and then…He moves on. Spend time on saving those who can be saved. Not those who are damned.
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I saw a video by Walid Shoebat and he pointed this out to the viewers. He drew it all out on a board behind him and wow - I couldn’t believe it. I had a hard time with that 666 stuff and the usual explanations for it all my life until I saw Walid spell it out so clearly. Then it all fell into place. All my years of learning about Islam and 666 - or I should say, bismallah (In the name of Allah) - all made sense.
 
I saw a video by Walid Shoebat and he pointed this out to the viewers. He drew it all out on a board behind him and wow - I couldn’t believe it. I had a hard time with that 666 stuff and the usual explanations for it all my life until I saw Walid spell it out so clearly. Then it all fell into place. All my years of learning about Islam and 666 - or I should say, bismallah (In the name of Allah) - all made sense.
qwerk and mosacked, you are telling lies about Islam. There is no order to tell lie at any time unless under extreme duress. The early christans had to go through that sort of persecution. They stood up for truth. The Muslims did the same.

There is a very minor sect in Islam which supports telling lies or hiding the truth. But that is all wrong. That is not Islam. You cannot show anything from the Quran and your Shoebat also cannot do anything. Shoebat was able to cheat or hoodwink qwerk. But could never stand up against any Muslim scholar.
 
qwerk and mosacked, you are telling lies about Islam. There is no order to tell lie at any time unless under extreme duress. The early christans had to go through that sort of persecution. They stood up for truth. The Muslims did the same.

There is a very minor sect in Islam which supports telling lies or hiding the truth. But that is all wrong. That is not Islam. You cannot show anything from the Quran and your Shoebat also cannot do anything. Shoebat was able to cheat or hoodwink qwerk. But could never stand up against any Muslim scholar.
That minor sect is the sunni, the shia, to name two. The Sunni are the majority of Muslims and are the ones with the power. The Shia are usually the ones noted for taqiyya but any sect can tell lies because of the commands of Muhammad to do so. So far I have named two sects that number about a billion Muslims who can tell lies. In fact to tell us that it is not Islamic is to do the same. Muhammad told lies and he even admitted it himself. So stop this behaving as if you don’t know this.

Ishaq:519 “Hajjaj said to the Apostle, ‘I have money scattered among the Meccan merchants, so give me permission to go and get it.’ Having got Muhammad’s permission, he said, ‘I must tell lies.’ The Apostle said, ‘Tell them.’”
 
qwerk and mosacked, you are telling lies about Islam. There is no order to tell lie at any time unless under extreme duress. The early christans had to go through that sort of persecution. They stood up for truth. The Muslims did the same.

There is a very minor sect in Islam which supports telling lies or hiding the truth. But that is all wrong. That is not Islam. You cannot show anything from the Quran and your Shoebat also cannot do anything. Shoebat was able to cheat or hoodwink qwerk. But could never stand up against any Muslim scholar.
So, by saying that, your still allowed to lie!

I also like it how they say they are not allowed to murder people, but yet they are allowed to under jihad

2… count them 2 commandments been broken by muslims!
 
I saw a video by Walid Shoebat and he pointed this out to the viewers. He drew it all out on a board behind him and wow - I couldn’t believe it. I had a hard time with that 666 stuff and the usual explanations for it all my life until I saw Walid spell it out so clearly. Then it all fell into place. All my years of learning about Islam and 666 - or I should say, bismallah (In the name of Allah) - all made sense.
Qwerk, now that your eyes are opened (thanks to God), perhaps you can share that video with the readers here.

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Qwerk, now that your eyes are opened (thanks to God), perhaps you can share that video with the readers here.

muslimsopenyoureyes.blogspot.com
Mark of the Beast by Walid Shoebat

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Watch the video and Walid will point out the different letters. Reading from right to left (as they do in Arabic), the first letter is bism or 'in the name of, the 2nd letter is allah, and the third letter symbolizes the swords.

All I got to say is - it is weird! It really put a different light on what I used to dismiss concerning the numbers 666.
 
This is a joke, or a serious theory? :confused:
I never said anything other than what I saw on a video by Walid Shoebat. Never have I given the impression it is theory. In fact, I have stated more than once that I thought the number 666 was a bunch of paranoia or tried to allude to that. Since I saw what Walid found in the ancient letters because he knows Arabic, I thought it was interesting. It sort of stopped me in my tracks about the number 666. I don’t know.
 
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