We must seek to treat the sick, but:Show me a quote from the catholic church that says curing disease is not a good thing to do.
Charity towards the neighbor is to love him as oneself.What do you think charity is. Do you think it just means smiling and being nice to people.
I’m sorry, but what you are writing appears to be your own theology or at the very least you are applying it out of context. Can you give some quotes please.We must seek to treat the sick, but:
We must do it first for ourselves to practice the virtue of mercy
We should be known that health may not be what is appropriate for the person being helped, and therefore not strive to heal it at all costs, and remain open to the possibility that he will never be cured as to being the good will of God
If I have good reason to believe that this understanding will increase, my Faith and my Charity then yes I will seek to understand scientifically the world. Otherwise it’s a waste of timeI go to God when i want to increase my faith and charity. I go to science when i want to understand the reality that God has created.
Good, so you would heal thy neighbor if you had the ability to cure their disease. Well guess what, without science, that is not likely to happen. And the Catholic Church has no problem with science. They do not speak against it. They do not try to shame it. They recognize it as a good thing!. So i think you would benefit from learning what our Church Authority, more particularly the Pope, has to say about science and reason. Don’t fall into the trap of thinking science is this great evil in the world just because some atheists like to bully Christians with it.Charity towards the neighbor is to love him as oneself.
Even before the scientific era there were doctors, but they were not scientists. I know you are going to tell me that there has been progress thanks to science, but for me, as this progress is not necessarily linked to progress in Faith and Charity, it is of no importance.Good, so you would heal thy neighbor if you had the ability to cure their disease. Well guess what, without science, that is not likely to happen
Well it is importance to anyone that gets sick, or has family that is sick, especially if its a child. There is nothing unholy about it. There is nothing wrong with it. it is good that science is used to find cures for diseases. And like i said, read about what the Popes has said about science and reason before criticizing it. They should know better than you.Even before the scientific era there were doctors, but they were not scientists. I know you are going to tell me that there has been progress thanks to science, but for me, as this progress is not necessarily linked to progress in Faith and Charity, it is of no importance.
Please read teachings of Church about Therapeutic relentlessness. JPII had refused therapeutic relentlessness before his deathI’m sorry, but what you are writing appears to be your own theology or at the very least you are applying it out of context. Can you give some quotes please.
You know in the Middle Ages, people were not sad because they did not travel by car, he had no idea what a car was, but someone could be unhappy because that he did not have a horse and had to travel on foot. So scientific progress is just creating new needs that we did not even have, or at least we were not sad because of their lack.So you would rather live in a world without these advances, if given a choice?
I am not in the strict framework of theology, but of the simple logic and the simple reason, so look :.I don’t know your theology.
Then what relevance does it have to the Catholic Faith? Do you honestly think that because you have your own personal interpretation of faith and charity and how we should distribute God’s good in the world, that anybody should listen to you? Better that you admit when you are in error and move on.I am not in the strict framework of theology,
I’m sorry there is nothing reasonable or logical about what you have said thus far. There are all kinds of good to be done in the world, and all of them are worth doing.but of the simple logic and the simple reason
You have not established a good reason to reject the pursuit of science. That is the context in which our discussion has it’s beginning. As far as that is concerned you are wrong. Can science be used for wrong? Sure, just like any tool. But is the pursuit of scientific knowledge a good thing? Yes, obviously, even if it is just to better understand and value the the creation that God has given to us. It shows respect and reverence to our creator.you have cutting my subject to give your answers each parts and it has lost its meaning.
I define the logical postulate on which I base myself.
we must define the finality we are looking for, then the means necessary to achieve this end, and from there we must know what is useful and what is vain.
I would have liked you to re-read my proposal as part of this postulate, and not to cutting my remarks to give them foreign interpretations.
And yet science is just another way of glorifying our creator. Understanding his creation reveals to us the glory of his work. It should make us praise God even more. A bad person may wish to smother the glory of God with fallacies, but his light shines through nonetheless. Science has clearly produced fruit for the betterment of humankind which is a good thing. It is not something to be abandoned, it is something to be respected.People in the past and even nowadays have loved God, and glorified Him without the support of science.
I myself do it today. So science is not necessary for salvation. It can be for someone in particular, but in general it is not.
I have made my case. You can either accept it, or ignore it. It seems to me that you have an irrational fear of atheism and it has led you to devalue science and the fruit it has produced because you have wrongly equated atheism with the pursuit of scientific knowledge.This is understandable because some atheists have hijacked science in order to use it as their rallying cry of reason against the faith. Many people have been led in to this deception, and it has caused much harm.I just give some observations.
Great saints did not need the support of science to glorify God.
Since the age of the scientifics progress, there is a great development of atheism and irreligion
Many great scientists are atheists