That after his duty as chariot driver and adviser to Arjuna he became a statesman in his native city of Dvaravati which then suffered a civil war until it sunk due to subsidence (as many places have done) is plausible history and attributing to him the words in the Gita is plausible. That estimates of the dating of this vary, doesn’t alter those facts in themselves.… all I am asking for is evidence that Krishna existed on this earth. If you believe that the Bhagavad Gita is evidence of that, then I am simply asking for what evidence is there that it was Krishna that wrote it. Why is the Bhagavad Gita evidence of his existence.
Heavy enough considering how long ago it was. Unfortunately, even most Hindus deny this, to confuse matters!There is heavy evidence to show that Jesus actually existed in space and time. This is not true for Krishna.
After He ascended, He sent us the Advocate-Comforter-Paraclete.What gives Jesus the edge of authority over someone like Krishna if you were to compare the both of them. … I’m trying to find the edge that Jesus has over Krishna. What would that edge be?
… What makes the resurrection so special compared to those?
As it has been said people are waiting for Krishna and Jesus to return, they are equal and not to be preferred above each other.I like how you don’t deal with the actual point in the discussion. That Jesus once for all paid the price for sins. Bahai don’t really believe that and instead believe all manifestations brought salvation, though the inspired author of Hebrews tells you otherwise.
Yes Christ will come again, we await that day which has not come yet though thousands of false prophets and perhaps not a few Persian mystics have claimed it so.
Just to be clear, no Hindu that I know of, is expecting Krishna to come back. Krishna did not say he would come and we don’t expect him to.As it has been said people are waiting for Krishna and Jesus to return, they are equal and not to be preferred above each other.
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If you did not know Christianity what would the view on this have been for you?Jesus is the one true God. Krishna is a false, pagan god that doesn’t exist. It is not appropriate to capitalize “god” when speaking of false gods such as Krishna.
We believe in Krishna as an equal Manifestation of God to Christ and all other Manifestations.Indeed.
I really have to wonder when a person who lists himself as “Catholic” asks such a question.
I would probably still pick Jesus since there is evidence He truly walked the earth, He became man instead of pretending to be one, He taught & did better things than Krishna, and so forth. It is difficult to tell since I don’t know nearly as much about Krishna as I do Our Lord.If you did not know Christianity what would the view on this have been for you?
I am talking about the promised foretold return of an Avatar in end days, all religions have a return mentioned.Just to be clear, no Hindu that I know of, is expecting Krishna to come back. Krishna did not say he would come and we don’t expect him to.
The Son however will continue to incarnate as and when he is needed. The next incarnation could be the expected muslim Mahdi.
Jesus however did specifically say that he would come back, and we should expect him to return (as Jesus himself not as anyone else). But it looks like that will happen after the Mahdi is here.
The Hindu Avatar in the end times will be Kalki (not Krishna), I am not sure that he is expected that soon though.I am talking about the promised foretold return of an Avatar in end days, all religions have a return mentioned.
Regards tony
“To deliver the pious and to annihilate the miscreants, as well as to reestablish the principles of religion, I Myself appear, millennium after millennium.” (Baghavad-Gita)I am talking about the promised foretold return of an Avatar in end days, all religions have a return mentioned.
Regards tony
At any age of mankind,people can understand the truth, plus those people in olden times were way smarter than you think.We believe in Krishna as an equal Manifestation of God to Christ and all other Manifestations.
The only difference is that they bring teachings and laws relevant to the age they come and when mankind has sufficiently progressed spiritually and materially the next Manifestation comes to advance us further.
This is the prophecy about a future Buddha,At any age of mankind,people can understand the truth, plus those people in olden times were way smarter than you think.
Buddha taught reincarnation.This is the prophecy about a future Buddha,
The Buddha continued again:’ I am not the first Buddha to come upon earth; nor shall I be the last. In due time, another Buddha will arise in this world, a Holy One, a Supremely Enlightened One, endowed with wisdom, in conduct auspicious, knowing the universe, an incomparable leader of men, a master of devas and men. He will reveal to you the same Eternal Truths which I have taught you. He will proclaim a religious life, wholly perfect and pure; such as I now proclaim.’
budsas.org/ebud/whatbudbeliev/45.htm
And in many senses, so does Christianity…Buddha taught reincarnation.
Transmigration of the soul which is the doctrine of one soul moving to another body or entity, does not equate to the Christian resurrection which is the revival of the original body and it’s glorification.And in many senses, so does Christianity…
Did Jesus not re"Incarnate" His physical body after death?
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People misunderstand it as reincarnation but what he meant was discarding the old selfish self and taking on a new virtuous self and comes and goings is describing the daily struggle with our ‘demons’ our faults, At one time we become saintly then again we sin and drop down to our old self and it this struggle which is misinterpreted after 2,500 years to mean reincarnation.Buddha taught reincarnation.
Kali Avatar we believe, is Baha’u’llah, the Tenth Avatar.The Hindu Avatar in the end times will be Kalki (not Krishna), I am not sure that he is expected that soon though.
The nearest one right now, I think is the Mahdi and after that Jesus.
**People misunderstand it as reincarnation but what he meant was discarding the old selfish self and taking on a new virtuous self and comes and goings is describing the daily struggle with our ‘demons’ our faults, At one time we become saintly then again we sin and drop down to our old self and it this struggle which is misinterpreted after 2,500 years to mean reincarnation.
Also, the Buddha said that eventually His true doctrine would disappear to be replaced with a counterfeit doctrine and that is these false beliefs and statue worship which Buddha never taught.
Just like Christians expect false prophets, Buddha spoke of a COUNTERFEIT religion in His name that would arise.
accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn16/sn16.013.than.html
Muslims too have been told their religion would die… This is from their OWN traditions not Bahai Books…
"The Apostle of God said: `There will come a time for my people when there will remain nothing of the Qur’an except its outward form and nothing of Islam except its name and they will call themselves by this name even though they are the people furthest from it. The mosques will be full of people but they will be empty of right guidance. The religious leaders (Fuqaha) of that day will be the most evil religious leaders under the heavens; sedition and dissension will go out from them and to them will it return.’ " -ibn Babuya, Thawab u - See more at: al-qiyamah.org/#sthash.yTqFRrQV.dpuf
Like being “born again” right David?People misunderstand it as reincarnation but what he meant was discarding the old selfish self and taking on a new virtuous self and comes and goings is describing the daily struggle with our ‘demons’ our faults, At one time we become saintly then again we sin and drop down to our old self and it this struggle which is misinterpreted after 2,500 years to mean reincarnation.
Also, the Buddha said that eventually His true doctrine would disappear to be replaced with a counterfeit doctrine and that is these false beliefs and statue worship which Buddha never taught.
Just like Christians expect false prophets, Buddha spoke of a COUNTERFEIT religion in His name that would arise.
accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn16/sn16.013.than.html
Muslims too have been told their religion would die… This is from their OWN traditions not Bahai Books…
"The Apostle of God said: `There will come a time for my people when there will remain nothing of the Qur’an except its outward form and nothing of Islam except its name and they will call themselves by this name even though they are the people furthest from it. The mosques will be full of people but they will be empty of right guidance. The religious leaders (Fuqaha) of that day will be the most evil religious leaders under the heavens; sedition and dissension will go out from them and to them will it return.’ " -ibn Babuya, Thawab u - See more at: al-qiyamah.org/#sthash.yTqFRrQV.dpuf