"Why Moral Absolutes Matter." A Catholic's Explanation

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Freddy said:
So He could justifiably ask you to do something you’d consider immoral.
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What I consider immoral may not be Truth, because I am not God and I do not yet (hopefully if I get to Heaven I will) know the fullness of Truth and morality. So God, in His perfect character, is righteous and moral in absolutely everything He does. (Because morality is based on His judgement, which is Truth and love and righteousness itself.) But it may be too confusing for me, a created human, to understand.
 
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Freddy:
So He could justifiably ask you to do something you’d consider immoral.
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What I consider immoral may not be Truth, because I am not God and I do not yet (hopefully if I get to Heaven I will) know the fullness of Truth and morality. So God, in His perfect character, is righteous and moral in absolutely everything He does. (Because morality is based on His judgement, which is Truth and love and righteousness itself.) But it may be too confusing for me, a created human, to understand.
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I didn’t ask you if you’d understand. I was asking if He could ask you to do something you consider to be immoral. I can only see two options:

One, you refuse to do it because you think it immoral.

Two, you do it even though you think it immoral.
 
Freddy said:
I was asking if He could ask you to do something you consider to be immoral.
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My opinion or understanding of what is immoral does not matter, because God is always right. I have no grounds to “consider” it one way or another. God is right, the end.
 
Freddy said:
Two, you do it even though you think it immoral
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I can’t “think it” anything. God has the final word, God’s opinion is the right one and the only thing that matters. I don’t form an opinion based on my fickle whim, I trust God
 
christismylord said:
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Freddy:
Two, you do it even though you think it immoral
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I can’t “think it” anything. God has the final word, God’s opinion is the right one and the only thing that matters. I don’t form an opinion based on my fickle whim, I trust God
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So you would obey God. That’s all I was asking. But I’d be surprised if you didn’t have an opinion on what was being asked of you.
 
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Freddy said:
But I’d be surprised if you didn’t have an opinion on what was being asked of you.
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2 Corinthians 10:5 “We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.”

I take my “opinion,” (whatever it may be, which has no merit) and make it obey God, whom I know is always right.
 
christismylord said:
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Freddy:
But I’d be surprised if you didn’t have an opinion on what was being asked of you.
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I take my “opinion,” (whatever it may be, which has no merit) and make it obey God, whom I know is always right.
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So you would do whatever you thought God wanted you to do. I just wanted your answer is all.
 
It is right to obey God. Yes, I would hope I would always obey Him. (I am not perfect, but I will strive to obey my Lord)
 
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I don’t know about christismylord, but God has provided a marvelous “hedge” or “rampart” for whoever chooses to live within those boundaries. To be specific, Scripture, Tradition, Magisterium, papal infallibility. They are my references, the standards to which any inspiration I may receive must conform. If it doesn’t, then like it or not, I accept that my thinking was in error.
Marvelous, FREEING, foundation and protection for falling off the deep end into error.
(For the times I choose to ignore the guidance God has provided, thank goodness He also provided for repentance and forgiveness.)
 
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Freddy said:
Now how do you know He has asked you to do something?
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He will make it known if He wishes me to serve Him in a specific way. He can use whatever means He likes (He can speak to us by infinite means) Now, if this request goes against His unchangeable character revealed in Scripture, I pray about it, trust the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and seek advice from faithful brothers and sisters. As John 4:1 says, “Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.”
 
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JGD said:
I don’t know about christismylord, but God has provided a marvelous “hedge” or “rampart” for whoever chooses to live within those boundaries. To be specific, Scripture, Tradition, Magisterium, papal infallibility.
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Yes! He is so good, providing us with unchangeable Truths in His word and the guidance of our Church leaders! You forgot to mention His Holy Spirit 😉 The best counselor, advisor, guide, and comforter.

As John 16:13 says, “But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.”

And John 14:26, “But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.” 😃
 
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Always. 🕊️
He is the source of those hedges - the Author of Scripture, the Guide revealing and ensuring that what the Church teaches is the truth.
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