Why Mormons Build Temples

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This is the belief of all Christians. What LDS ask is far beyond. You ask to believe in fantasy. In the word of one man who claimed a vision. You have no proof of this vision.

Many people witness Jesus Christ. Many people witnessed His resurrection. The gift of the Holy Spirit is from God, not your church. God guides people to Truth, not to nice feelings. Sometimes, truth requires letting God take you to where it’s tough. LDS never go those places. You only go where you feel good. At all times.

Your missionaries tell people what they should believe, and then ask them to ask God if this belief is correct. This is not a honest path to truth. This is not letting God show you the way. This is telling God what you want. This is defining God for yourself. If a person does not believe what you have told them to believe, still, you tell them something is wrong with them. To try again.

All you do is define people’s feelings for them. Tell them what they should feel and what those feelings mean. Truth is not a feeling.
I am not sure what you mean by feelings but one should not accept emotions as a manifestation of the Holy Ghost. We are cautioned about that. Rebecca has had a tough time getting our theology right though. I have to say that Rebecca is wrong on so many fronts that it is hard to recognize what she is talking about. It certainly isn’t LDS theology. Intersted people should check for themselves. www.mormons.org and www.lds.org.
 
I am not sure what you mean by feelings but one should not accept emotions as a manifestation of the Holy Ghost. We are cautioned about that. Rebecca has had a tough time getting our theology right though. I have to say that Rebecca is wrong on so many fronts that it is hard to recognize what she is talking about. It certainly isn’t LDS theology. Intersted people should check for themselves. www.mormons.org and www.lds.org.
I mean, I’ve been told that ex-Catholics don’t fully understand actual Catholics beliefs, usually because of poor catechesis. We can’t expect any different from ex-LDS. 🤷
 
yeah they showed that episode already. HBO takes down all clips from youtube, but you might be able to find the full episode somewhere online. Honestly the ceremony was unnecessary for the plot of the episode, but, as much as I would have rather it not have been shown, I liked that they didn’t try to disrespect our temple beliefs (though they did get some concepts, like temple recommends, wrong).
Gratuitous representations of rituals, at least in the case of a dramatic portrayal of Mormon temple rituals, are the result of SECRET rituals. Mormons sowed the seed of secrecy and have no standing to complain about what happens as a result of their choice. It’s not disrespectful, as you claim. What is disrespectful to any human is Mormon secret rituals.
 
Gratuitous representations of rituals, at least in the case of a dramatic portrayal of Mormon temple rituals, are the result of SECRET rituals. Mormons sowed the seed of secrecy and have no standing to complain about what happens as a result of their choice. It’s not disrespectful, as you claim. What is disrespectful to any human is Mormon secret rituals.
:confused: That’s like saying, Catholics restrict the Eucharist to only Catholics, and they should not think it disrespectful when non-Catholics or non-Christians partake or parody the Eucharist. It’s disrespectful to any human to restrict the Eucharist.
 
:confused: That’s like saying, Catholics restrict the Eucharist to only Catholics, and they should not think it disrespectful when non-Catholics or non-Christians partake or parody the Eucharist. It’s disrespectful to any human to restrict the Eucharist.
That is completely erroneous and you should know better. The Eucharist is restricted to Catholics because a person needs to know what they’re doing in taking the Eucharist, and such a person needs to be both properly catechized as well as confessed to take part. I was going to say that it’s not about the respect of persons, but actually it IS ~ it’s about respecting the right of every individual to make an informed choice. After they choose to do that, they can proceed to inquire about the Church. To accept the Eucharist without knowledge or worthiness does no one any good and may invite adversity. So, contrary to what you have stated, restricting the Eucharist to Catholics is respectful and even benevolent.

In contrast, Mormon Temple rituals truly serve no spiritually-uplifting purpose. Don’t bother to argue this because the rituals have been exposed, in detail, for quite some time. The bottom line is that Mormon Temple Recommends are a device to divide Mormons between those that qualify for a Temple recommend (and one of the big barriers is tithing but there are others) and those that don’t, although I have been told by a “good” Mormon that you just have to tithe once, get your recommend, get your endowments & you’re done. WHATEVER!

By establishing secret Temple rituals, Mormons create a tiered system of membership. The main goal appears to be the enriching the corporation know as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. There is no spiritually uplifting purpose.

I trust the LDS Corporation won’t be getting a government bailout soon. 😃
 
That is completely erroneous and you should know better. The Eucharist is restricted to Catholics because a person needs to know what they’re doing in taking the Eucharist, and such a person needs to be both properly catechized as well as confessed to take part. I was going to say that it’s not about the respect of persons, but actually it IS ~ it’s about respecting the right of every individual to make an informed choice. After they choose to do that, they can proceed to inquire about the Church. To accept the Eucharist without knowledge or worthiness does no one any good and may invite adversity. So, contrary to what you have stated, restricting the Eucharist to Catholics is respectful and even benevolent.

In contrast, Mormon Temple rituals truly serve no spiritually-uplifting purpose. Don’t bother to argue this because the rituals have been exposed, in detail, for quite some time. The bottom line is that Mormon Temple Recommends are a device to divide Mormons between those that qualify for a Temple recommend (and one of the big barriers is tithing but there are others) and those that don’t, although I have been told by a “good” Mormon that you just have to tithe once, get your recommend, get your endowments & you’re done. WHATEVER!

By establishing secret Temple rituals, Mormons create a tiered system of membership. The main goal appears to be the enriching the corporation know as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. There is no spiritually uplifting purpose.

I trust the LDS Corporation won’t be getting a government bailout soon. 😃
Melanie you just created a double standard!

“The Eucharist is restricted to Catholics because a person needs to know what they’re doing in taking the Eucharist, and such a person needs to be both properly catechized as well as confessed to take part.”

**Yes, and attending the temple is restricted because a person needs to be able to not only understand what they’re going through, having a foundation in the Restored Gospel, but they must also be faithfully following that Gospel.
**

“I was going to say that it’s not about the respect of persons, but actually it IS ~ it’s about respecting the right of every individual to make an informed choice. After they choose to do that, they can proceed to inquire about the Church.”

Yes, and we ask that people also respect our beliefs, but I guess that’s too much to ask. LDS choose to follow the faith and attend the temple. It would be great if everyone could! But sadly not everyone can follow the straight and narrow path. Just as it would be great if all Catholics would partake in the Eucharist every week.

“In contrast, Mormon Temple rituals truly serve no spiritually-uplifting purpose. Don’t bother to argue this because the rituals have been exposed, in detail, for quite some time. The bottom line is that Mormon Temple Recommends are a device to divide Mormons between those that qualify for a Temple recommend (and one of the big barriers is tithing but there are others) and those that don’t, although I have been told by a “good” Mormon that you just have to tithe once, get your recommend, get your endowments & you’re done. WHATEVER!”

That is your opinion. To Latter-day Saints, the whole point of the temple is spiritually uplifting. Making covenants with God, sealing our families together for time and eternity, baptizing our ancestors by proxy that they may partake in the salvation that Christ died for and provides, to us, this is all very spiritual and pointed at Christ. As stated above, restricting the temple to only those prepared to partake in the ordinances provided there is not a “device”. And that “good Mormon” doesn’t really understand temples and why we go more than once if he said that.
 
Melanie you just created a double standard!

“The Eucharist is restricted to Catholics because a person needs to know what they’re doing in taking the Eucharist, and such a person needs to be both properly catechized as well as confessed to take part.”

**Yes, and attending the temple is restricted because a person needs to be able to not only understand what they’re going through, having a foundation in the Restored Gospel, but they must also be faithfully following that Gospel.
**

“I was going to say that it’s not about the respect of persons, but actually it IS ~ it’s about respecting the right of every individual to make an informed choice. After they choose to do that, they can proceed to inquire about the Church.”

Yes, and we ask that people also respect our beliefs, but I guess that’s too much to ask. LDS choose to follow the faith and attend the temple. It would be great if everyone could! But sadly not everyone can follow the straight and narrow path. Just as it would be great if all Catholics would partake in the Eucharist every week.

“In contrast, Mormon Temple rituals truly serve no spiritually-uplifting purpose. Don’t bother to argue this because the rituals have been exposed, in detail, for quite some time. The bottom line is that Mormon Temple Recommends are a device to divide Mormons between those that qualify for a Temple recommend (and one of the big barriers is tithing but there are others) and those that don’t, although I have been told by a “good” Mormon that you just have to tithe once, get your recommend, get your endowments & you’re done. WHATEVER!”

That is your opinion. To Latter-day Saints, the whole point of the temple is spiritually uplifting. Making covenants with God, sealing our families together for time and eternity, baptizing our ancestors by proxy that they may partake in the salvation that Christ died for and provides, to us, this is all very spiritual and pointed at Christ. As stated above, restricting the temple to only those prepared to partake in the ordinances provided there is not a “device”. And that “good Mormon” doesn’t really understand temples and why we go more than once if he said that.
Baloney.

Nice try tho’. There is no analogy between what Christ did in instituting the Eucharist and the Masonic rituals practiced in Mormon temples with all their restrictions and social tiers. It is silly for you to say otherwise.

Actually I’d say it’s blasphemous for you to say otherwise, but no doubt you wouldn’t care about that. Perhaps, some day, you will.
 
Baloney.

Nice try tho’. There is no analogy between what Christ did in instituting the Eucharist and the Masonic rituals practiced in Mormon temples with all their restrictions and social tiers. It is silly for you to say otherwise.

Actually I’d say it’s blasphemous for you to say otherwise, but no doubt you wouldn’t care about that. Perhaps, some day, you will.
Yes and I would say it’s blasphemous for you to say what you say about our temples and ordinances, but no doubt you wouldn’t care about that, as already evidenced.
 
Yes and I would say it’s blasphemous for you to say what you say about our temples and ordinances, but no doubt you wouldn’t care about that, as already evidenced.
The key point tho’ is that you failed to make any sort of analogy.

Good to know.
 
:confused: That’s like saying, Catholics restrict the Eucharist to only Catholics, and they should not think it disrespectful when non-Catholics or non-Christians partake or parody the Eucharist. It’s disrespectful to any human to restrict the Eucharist.
No. It’s actualy like Catholics restrict the Eucharist to Catholics, and should not be offended if a television show depicts a fallen away Catholic receiving the Eucharist, because its part of the story line.
 
No. It’s actualy like Catholics restrict the Eucharist to Catholics, and should not be offended if a television show depicts a fallen away Catholic receiving the Eucharist, because its part of the story line.
And would you be offended if the film crew barged into the church, used the actual wine and wafers–as well as the vestments of the priest–without asking permission or giving a hoot what the congregation and priests might think of all the hoopla?
 
And would you be offended if the film crew barged into the church, used the actual wine and wafers–as well as the vestments of the priest–without asking permission or giving a hoot what the congregation and priests might think of all the hoopla?
and they forget that catechumens and others were sent out of the church when the liturgy of the faithful (the second major division of the Mass/Divine Liturgy) were sent out. Here is one Catholic’s personal view on that:

holydormition.blogspot.com/2008/07/doors-doors.html
 
I am not sure what you mean by feelings but one should not accept emotions as a manifestation of the Holy Ghost. We are cautioned about that. Rebecca has had a tough time getting our theology right though. I have to say that Rebecca is wrong on so many fronts that it is hard to recognize what she is talking about. It certainly isn’t LDS theology. Intersted people should check for themselves. www.mormons.org and www.lds.org.
Theology? I’m telling you what you actually do.
 
And would you be offended if the film crew barged into the church, used the actual wine and wafers–as well as the vestments of the priest–without asking permission or giving a hoot what the congregation and priests might think of all the hoopla?
And HBO broke in to your temple and took your temple clothing to film the episode?
 
“As for determining whether your feelings are your own or the promptings of the Holy Ghost, it may be that they are one and the same. The Holy Ghost inspires people to do good. If you’ve made a right decision, then you and the Holy Ghost are simply moving in the same direction. If, however, you feel confused about something, you can be pretty sure that you’re either not yet in tune or you’re acting on your own thoughts.” (New Era)

““We must understand what an investigator must feel in order to receive conversion.” (Preach My Gospel, missionary manual, chapter 4)
 
and they forget that catechumens and others were sent out of the church when the liturgy of the faithful (the second major division of the Mass/Divine Liturgy) were sent out. Here is one Catholic’s personal view on that:

holydormition.blogspot.com/2008/07/doors-doors.html
Still practiced during Lent. After the Liturgy of the Word. It is actually, a great experience. We leave together, and discuss the scripture readings, pray, continue to prepare for baptism, confirmation and Holy Eucharist.

However, any non-Catholics who are neither Catechumen or Candidate are still sitting in their pews.

And perhaps you are forgetting in the first 300 years of Christianity, the death penalty awaited any who were practicing Christians. It was to the benefit of all to ensure that catechumens were really intent on becoming Christians, rather than spying for those who wished to kill everyone.

LDS don’t have this problem today.
 
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