Why no coat racks in Catholic churches?

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depends on a lot of things, size of the church for one, at many parishes we visit while on vacation there may be 1000 people at Mass, which is a lot of coats, and unless the racks were very well organized and accessible, would take along time to retrieve, and Catholics do love to speed it up getting to the parking lot.

we have absolutely not an inch of room in our nave, SRO for 3 Masses. our new church will have a cloak room, stragegically placed between narthex and hall, to encourage people to stay for coffee and donuts (impossible with our current parking deficiencies).
 
So far the best explanation has been to mark the spot in the pew.
That me be a useful coincidence, but most people only wear a coat for half the year or so, so it’s not a very good explanation.
 
Sorry, folks, but I am not buying the explanation that your churches are too big for a coat rack, and that people would have problems finding their coat.

The Protestant church that I grew up in had over a thousand people in attendance on Sunday mornings, and my husband’s church had several thousand (yes, back in the 70s–we attended some honkin’ big churches!). We had mulitiple church services at our churches, as we were too big to all fit into one worship service. But even as a little child, I never had trouble finding my coat. Neither did any of the hundreds of senior citizens who attended my church. And my church had several large coat racks, so I had to not only remember where on the rack that I kept my coat, but also which coat rack I had hung it on. Same for my husband’s church.

I think that Catholics have as much intelligence as Protestants.

As for the cold of older churches, I can certainly understand that. But it seems to me that most older churches in the U.S. have modernized their buildings and added central heating (to not rehab a building and add heat is hard on the pipes and building structure). And there are MANY Protestant church buildings that are as old or older than Catholic church buildings (my parents in law attend one that is over a hundred years old), and those people don’t wear coats throughout the worship service. I know–I’ve been to these churches!

But if the explanation for Catholics leaving their coats on is that their church buildings are too cold, then I firmly believe that we need to take a serious look at turning up the heat. I honestly think it would add to the friendly and warm atmosphere of the church if people took their coats off in church! If people are sitting there shivering, no WONDER they stay away from Mass! And no wonder they go to the Protestant megachurches where they can not only be warm while listening to the sermon, but they can even sip lattes and enjoy a croissant with their friends before, after, and in some megachurches, DURING the worship service. Duh!

If turning up the heat in our Catholic church buildings will help people to be more faithful in attending Mass, then I say, “Turn up the heat.”

As for Protestants attending a church for “show,” I think we can say that there are Catholics who attend church for show. But most people of faith attend church to honor God, worship Him, and for Catholics, to receive Him in the Liturgy of the Word and the Liturgy of the Eucharist. I am charitable enough to believe that most people don’t go to church to show off their fashion sense.

So far the best explanation has been to mark the spot in the pew. I’ve never visited any Episcopal church services and so I don’t know if these people leave their coats on during their worship service. I usually use a little prayer book to “mark my spot.” But I also don’t worry too much about it if I end up in a different spot after Holy Communion. We’re all family, after all.
This is such a non-issue to me.
**Leave your coat on, if you want. If not, lay it on the pew next to you. **That has worked for me for over forty years.
I think that there are more important issues going on in the Church than the evils of a coat-rack-deprived parish. If that’s your biggest peeve with the Church, then you’re pretty fortunate, I’d say.
Coat-rack, indeed . . .
 
Our Parish is a no-room issue. The building is 100 years old, the foyer (pardon my Evangelical upbringing showing by using that word) is very small and doubles as the cry room. To fit coats for the hundreds of Parishioers would turn the whole thing into a giant wardrobe 🙂
 
We have no room for a coat rack. My church was built in the mid 1950’s and my last church building was built in the late 1800’s. the building was very large but no coat room or racks. I guess people always had their coats in the pew with them. I do not mind having to keep the coats close, I do hate the fact that everyone dresses so casually. Yesterday, I was watching a film of Easter Morning Mass from a church in Chicago in 1941. Everyone had suits and dresses, very formal. Easter this year at St Joseph in Newton Falls, Ohio was very different. Some wore very nice dress clothes but many more were very casual; jeans, warm up suits, etc. I guess it is important that being there receiving the Eucharistic, is the most important thing but I miss the more formal dress of my youth.
 
it often is below 60 degrees in our church in the winter. You would be VERY uncomfortable in the winter in our church.
 
Hmm. I hadn’t thought of this but since I live in florida it is pretty warm most of the year;). On the rare occasion that I need to wrap up I will usually remove my jacket and place it on the pew beside me.

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it often is below 60 degrees in our church in the winter. You would be VERY uncomfortable in the winter in our church.
LOL, Where do you live? In Albany, NY anything above 50 degrees is “shorts and t-shirt” weather. Most people here don’t even wear a coat outside until it gets into the 20s, nevermind at Mass. 😉

Back to the topic, neither of the parishes that I attend have coat racks. Since both have multiple back-to-back Masses, large seating capacities with several thousand parishioners, and virtually no parking, it would be a logistical nightmare to have everyone scrambling to find their coats at the end. Those who do wish to take off their coats simply leave them on the seat.
 
My church seats 1400 and it is usually full at all masses. I cannot imagine the chaos of a coat room. We would need a coat check person and a whole lot of extra time before and after mass to sort it out. In the meantime, the folks for the next mass are pushing through the doors before we can exit even without the problem of trying to go find a coat.

We don’t have to wear them most of the year, but when it is cold we just sit on them.
The Baptist church I attended before my conversion seated nearly 2500 people, and there were coat racks everywhere. We didn’t need a coat-check person, and even in between services when the most possible people were in the atrium, it wasn’t a problem to slide into the area where the racks were located 🤷
 
I have never heard of anyone not taking their coat off because they are afraid of thievery.😃
You never visited one of the larger churches in this city. It’s in a bad part of town populated by many vagrants, homeless people, etc. and near the central bus station. Thieves have come in off the street during weddings and broken into the bridal party’s dressing rooms, and one time the police arrested a man who was walking up the street carrying one of the processional crosses which he had just stolen! :eek: Women have had their purses snatched when they leave them sitting on the pew during communion, too. I wouldn’t leave my coat hanging unattended if they had a rack (which they don’t), and I take my purse with me when I go for communion, esp. if I’m sitting near an exit.
 
Logistics. Five Masses on Sunday morning, all of them packed. Half hour between Masses. Mass runs a little long and the next group is beginning to line up to take their place.

The parking situation is bad enough; can’t imagine how much chaos would prevail trying to keep tabs on coats! :eek:
 
We have a similar situation in our parish church. Three Masses, less than 30 minutes between, and probably 300 people at each. If I’m coming early because I am cantor and happen to arrive as the previous Mass is dismissed, I’m nearly stampeded as I try to swim “upstream.” I can only imagine the chaos if people were wrestling around trying to locate their coats! Besides, it’s so cold inside the church that I bring a sweater even in the heat of summer. During the winter months, they’d have to turn the heat up two days beforehand in order to get the church comfortably warm, and that would be a huge waste of money. I’ll keep my coat on, thank you.
 
As for the cold of older churches, I can certainly understand that. But it seems to me that most older churches in the U.S. have modernized their buildings and added central heating (to not rehab a building and add heat is hard on the pipes and building structure). And there are MANY Protestant church buildings that are as old or older than Catholic church buildings (my parents in law attend one that is over a hundred years old), and those people don’t wear coats throughout the worship service. I know–I’ve been to these churches!

But if the explanation for Catholics leaving their coats on is that their church buildings are too cold, then I firmly believe that we need to take a serious look at turning up the heat. I honestly think it would add to the friendly and warm atmosphere of the church if people took their coats off in church! If people are sitting there shivering, no WONDER they stay away from Mass!

If turning up the heat in our Catholic church buildings will help people to be more faithful in attending Mass, then I say, “Turn up the heat.”
I once asked about why the church is kept on the chilly side. I was told that even though parishioners may be cold without coats, the priest is usually hot because of the vestments he has to wear. That would be different in many Protestant churches, where the minister only wears a suit, not vestments. Of course, that wouldn’t apply to more liturgical Protestant churches where the minister wears vestments.
 
Because father would go through the pockets trying to help people with their stewardship! 😃 😃 😃 😃 😃 😃
 
The Baptist church I attended before my conversion seated nearly 2500 people, and there were coat racks everywhere. We didn’t need a coat-check person, and even in between services when the most possible people were in the atrium, it wasn’t a problem to slide into the area where the racks were located 🤷
Do you know how much time there was between services? Compared to how much time there is between Masses? Or perhaps the size of the parking lot differs.

In my experience, protestant churches usually have a building with classrooms for Sunday school etc attached to the church and often coat racks are in that space, or people are picking up kids from children’s church or classes after service so there is a more dispersed leaving time.

In all parishes I’ve been to, the school is a separate building and the ‘lobby’ area is relatively small. Also, there is usually no CCD or other activities during the Sunday Mass time so everyone is leaving Mass at the same time.

I usually take our coats off and stuff them in between us or sit on them, so we aren’t taking up space in the pew that someone else needs.
 
I think the whole thing is a non-issue. I don’t feel that my parish is less personable because some people wear their coats. Most of us don’t even notice. I belong to a large parish and we do have a coat rack, but not all of us bother to use it. On Christmas and Easter, when it is SRO, the pastor usually asks us to use the coat rack to make more room.

Besides, most Catholic Masses run around an hour, not like Protestant churches where people attend Sunday School and the Service, and most of the morning is taken up. Then it is more practical to remove your coat and hang it up, rather than sit in it for 2 or 3 hours. I’ve noticed that most people who stay for coffee and doughnuts after Mass usually remove their coats and hang them up, probably for that reason. But it really never registers in my brain if a person has their coat on or not at Mass.

I guess that if someone is new to the CC, it’s just one of those things you have to get used to…
 
I once asked about why the church is kept on the chilly side. I was told that even though parishioners may be cold without coats, the priest is usually hot because of the vestments he has to wear. That would be different in many Protestant churches, where the minister only wears a suit, not vestments. Of course, that wouldn’t apply to more liturgical Protestant churches where the minister wears vestments.
That is a good point. I know my son has talked about how hot he is in his cassock when he serves Mass. I’m not sure what they are made of. Also one day this summer on of the altar boys fainted from the heat (the AC wasn’t working too well that day).

The priests in my parish are wearing an amise, cassock, surplice, and chasbule over his regular pants and shirt. In the Lutheran church we used to attend, the minister wore an alb and chasbule of the tablecloth variety. I imagine he was still hot, but not quite as hot as a priest could get.
 
You never visited one of the larger churches in this city. It’s in a bad part of town populated by many vagrants, homeless people, etc. and near the central bus station. Thieves have come in off the street during weddings and broken into the bridal party’s dressing rooms, and one time the police arrested a man who was walking up the street carrying one of the processional crosses which he had just stolen! :eek: Women have had their purses snatched when they leave them sitting on the pew during communion, too. I wouldn’t leave my coat hanging unattended if they had a rack (which they don’t), and I take my purse with me when I go for communion, esp. if I’m sitting near an exit.
I had always left my purse in the pew as a sort of act of faith because it seemed strange to go to communion holding a purse. A few years ago I read in a Church bulletin warning women to not leave their purses behind going to Holy Communion. I wish I had saved the article. Something about God not guaranteeing it would still be their after Holy Communion, and it being a severe temptation for some people. Now I just take it with me.
 
At my parish a lot of the old folks, mostly women, are hot all the time, no matter the temperature outside or inside (menopause). Most churches can’t keep the temperature where everyone is happy and comfortable without their coats. My pastor has even told parishoners to bundle up because he is keeping the thermastat low so that others don’t pass out. What is comfortable for one person isn’t always comfortable for another. Besides, spiritually we are all at the foot of the cross in the Sacrifice of the Mass. Nothing wrong with with some outdoor wear.
 
LOL, Where do you live? In Albany, NY anything above 50 degrees is “shorts and t-shirt” weather. Most people here don’t even wear a coat outside until it gets into the 20s, nevermind at Mass. 😉
If you look closely at my post you will notice that I said below 60 degrees inside the church…I live in the upper midwest and according to city data my hometown averages around 5 degrees colder than albany, NY in the months of November thru march and the wind speed average is twice that of Albany…

I live in the corn belt were it gets -25 in the winter and 100+ in the summer. it was 2 degrees this morning when I rode my bicycle into a 20MPH wind to work today…I know what cold is …thank you very much.
 
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