I belong to Bible church it has no denomination or anything like that.Berk…your tag states Protestant. That is a pretty general label. Do you attend a certain denomination or faith? Would make things a bit clearer when posting with you.
So you mean Non-Denominational.
That was not the reason that he was excommunicated; his writings included stances and beliefs that were incompatible with Catholic teaching. St. Francis of Assisi was a great reformer of the Church in his time, and he did so while remaining humbly obedient to the Church. Luther openly defied the authority of the Church, and so the Church rightly excommunicated him.
Many just call themselves Evangelical or the simple Christian. Non Denominational is so yesterday lol
The “in” thing these days is “follower of Christ”.Many just call themselves Evangelical or the simple Christian. Non Denominational is so yesterday lol
Cool. I love to follow Christ everyday. I pray we all try hard to follow him more and more!The “in” thing these days is “follower of Christ”.
Maybe if all the divergent Christians follow Him from wherever their start is, we’ll all meet up at the same spot in the end! Christ Himself in the center!
And that wasn’t Luther’s fault, somehow?
Catholic Catechism.
Well, I do feel that God provided this truth that I sought with all my heart, soul and mind. I feel that I have truly come to the end of myself, having asked Jesus to save me thus allowing me to receive the Spirit and therefore read/understand God’s word. The Holy Spirit led me to the Catholic church, and her teachings. Was I right? I can’t be right if non-Catholics are right, logically speaking. For example, I interpret full of grace to mean exactly what the CC teaches about our blessed mother Mary. My other family members believe the polar opposite and they prayed on it too, and believe that they are moved by the Holy Spirit in terms of this particular teaching. Individual interpretation, as each person is moved by the HS, does not seem to work.
However, it seems to work for you and I certainly respect that brother. 
Psalm 5:1-12
I agree that nothing is ever one-sided. Based on what I’ve read, I think Luther went too far. I can only point to St. Francis of Assisi as the proper model of reform within the Church.
I think the question comes down to did St Francis threaten the flow of money like Luther did?
Jon,I think the question comes down to did St Francis threaten the flow of money like Luther did?
Same question for Catherine of Sienna. They may have (I don’t know), but
Just handled themselves better.
Jon
Amen!Psalm 5:1-12
5 Give ear to my words, O Lord, consider my meditation.
2 Hearken unto the voice of my cry, my King, and my God: for unto thee will I pray.
3 My voice shalt thou hear in the morning, O Lord; in the morning will I direct my prayer unto thee, and will look up.
4 For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.
5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the Lord will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.
7 But as for me, I will come into thy house in the multitude of thy mercy: and in thy fear will I worship toward thy holy temple.
8 Lead me, O Lord, in thy righteousness because of mine enemies; make thy way straight before my face.
9 For there is no faithfulness in their mouth; their inward part is very wickedness; their throat is an open sepulchre; they flatter with their tongue.
10 Destroy thou them, O God; let them fall by their own counsels; cast them out in the multitude of their transgressions; for they have rebelled against thee.
11 But let all those that put their trust in thee rejoice: let them ever shout for joy, because thou defendest them: let them also that love thy name be joyful in thee.
12 For thou, Lord, wilt bless the righteous; with favour wilt thou compass him as with a shield.
Here David himself is praying to the Lord, without asking someone else to pray for him. There are other Psalms where David is praying to the Lord. I pray every morning. I face east, and I say the Lord’s prayer, and the 23rd Psalm.
Harry
Berk do you believe Catholics do not pray to God? That we are not allowed to pray directly to God? It seems you believe only Protestants pray to God.
Well, clearly his thinking changed about invocation , and there are differing opinions about if and how much his thoughts evolved about the IC and assumption. This much seems sure, he never changed regarding Theotokos, and I suspect not about ever- virgin. I also think he believed ever-virgin, IC, and the assumption should not be a doctrine that binds the conscience.
Do you think angels can hear us? Can talk to us?
And Catherine of Sienna…both models of obedience and humility, and both received the Stigmata.
I think they did loose their trust in God, nor took matters into their own hands.I think the question comes down to did St Francis threaten the flow of money like Luther did?
Same question for Catherine of Sienna. They may have (I don’t know), but
Just handled themselves better.
Jon
