Why "practice" religion?

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And why seek meaning, if we are nothing more than a random collection of cells that just happened to snap together at some point in evolutionary history, purely by happenstance? 🤷
We all seek meaning in life, but maybe being religious fills that meaning for people and others not so. Life might be objectively meaningless and we give meaning to it.
 
Any responses to my concern that maybe Christianity (particularly Catholicism) is surviving because of natural selection (non -biological)?

ANY RESPONSE that is not “it was part of God’s plan, a precursor to Christ, etc”
 
We all seek meaning in life, but maybe being religious fills that meaning for people and others not so. Life might be objectively meaningless and we give meaning to it.
What I mean is, if we are nothing more than a collection of random cells or atoms, how is it that we are self-aware? Most of the time, the result of an accident is chaos. When chaotic things collide together, the result is most often more chaos. Very seldom (and in fact I would say never) does an accidental collision result in things being neatly aligned in rows, dusted, clean and in perfect working condition.

How did such an orderly thing as human consciousness arise by the accidental collision of atoms?
 
What I mean is, if we are nothing more than a collection of random cells or atoms, how is it that we are self-aware? Most of the time, the result of an accident is chaos. When chaotic things collide together, the result is most often more chaos. Very seldom (and in fact I would say never) does an accidental collision result in things being neatly aligned in rows, dusted, clean and in perfect working condition.

How did such an orderly thing as human consciousness arise by the accidental collision of atoms?
I get it, you’re implying God did those things. OK. Even if God did, I don’t care. I’m concerned about BEING RELIGIOUS not about the existence of God. If God exists, so be it, but I can’t justify

My views on God and religion are like this following analogy I already mentioned:

The idea of God is like the possibility of civilizations on other planets.
Religion is like believing there are absolutely civilizations on other planets AND they speak French, where khakis, etc, etc…too many specifics.

I really don’t care about the existence of God, I’m just trying to understand the whole being religious thing.
 
What I mean is, if we are nothing more than a collection of random cells or atoms, how is it that we are self-aware? Most of the time, the result of an accident is chaos. When chaotic things collide together, the result is most often more chaos. Very seldom (and in fact I would say never) does an accidental collision result in things being neatly aligned in rows, dusted, clean and in perfect working condition.

How did such an orderly thing as human consciousness arise by the accidental collision of atoms?
God of the gaps? If you can’t explain it, insert God into the mix?
 
God of the gaps? If you can’t explain it, insert God into the mix?
That we seek explanations at all is all the proof I need that we were designed by a Creator who is greater than ourselves, and not the result of some kind of cosmic accident. 🙂
 
That we seek explanations at all is all the proof I need that we were designed by a Creator who is greater than ourselves, and not the result of some kind of cosmic accident. 🙂
OK. God exists, in your opinion. Good. I’m apathetic.

I want to know why you can’t be satisfied life without being religious, without talking to God , , being “friends” with Jesus, etc. Some people say they have this desire for the Divine, a God-shaped hole etc. That’s great. I don’t experience it, maybe I did before, but I do not know. I know others that don’t. Why?

I want to know, is it something people are born with…do certain people have a predisposition to being religious?

I don’t care about the existence of God…just the whole being religious thing.
 
I want to know why you can’t be satisfied life without being religious, without talking to God , , being “friends” with Jesus, etc. Some people say they have this desire for the Divine, a God-shaped hole etc. That’s great. I don’t experience it, maybe I did before, but I do not know. I know others that don’t. Why?
Probably for the same reason I buy gifts for my mother and take her places that she likes to go - because of love, and because I’m just so used to doing it, and because the world would seem very incomplete without it.
I want to know, is it something people are born with…do certain people are a predisposition to being religious?
I have no idea. There were no atheists before the time of Marx. Everyone believed in something, before that.

I have no idea where atheism comes from, but it is a very modern phenomenon.
 
I think it is clear:

People are religious because not only do they believe in God, but they feel the need to praise/worship/be friends/talk to that God.
 
Probably for the same reason I buy gifts for my mother and take her places that she likes to go - because of love, and because I’m just so used to doing it, and because the world would seem very incomplete without it.

**I have no idea. There were no atheists before the time of Marx. Everyone believed in something, before that. **

I have no idea where atheism comes from, but it is a very modern phenomenon.
So you believe every single human that existed before Marx believed in God? Interesting.

Everyone believed in “something”. It’s like saying anything religion is OK just believe in something…just be religious…pick a religion…

I still think no religion makes the most sense. Even if there is God, why care? Why not remain apathetic?

Still, no religious person on here is able to offer a good response to my concern about all current religions being human inventions and survivors of natural selection. That is my concern because I just don’t want to be religious without knowing it is true. Even if we have some sort of desire for God, it might be a weakness.
 
Probably for the same reason I buy gifts for my mother and take her places that she likes to go - because of love, and because I’m just so used to doing it, and because the world would seem very incomplete without it.

I have no idea. There were no atheists before the time of Marx. Everyone believed in something, before that.

I have no idea where atheism comes from, but it is a very modern phenomenon.
Islam and Christianity are also very modern phenomena, at least in the history of the different religions human civilization ever believed in. It could be that human civilization is in the beginning stages of living without religion. Again, I’m mean religion, not God. I really don’t care if God exists or not, it doesn’t matter to me because I feel no need to have a personal relationship with any deity, real or imagined.
 
OK. God exists, in your opinion. Good. I’m apathetic.

I want to know why you can’t be satisfied life without being religious, without talking to God , , being “friends” with Jesus, etc. Some people say they have this desire for the Divine, a God-shaped hole etc. That’s great. I don’t experience it, maybe I did before, but I do not know. I know others that don’t. Why?

I want to know, is it something people are born with…do certain people have a predisposition to being religious?

I don’t care about the existence of God…just the whole being religious thing.
Bottom line is that there are plently of people who are satisfied without “being” religious. In fact I would say the majority of people on the planet are that way. There is a passage in the Bible (KJV) that states “Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.”

In saying that, how many people are actually looking to find it? So its not something people are born with. I think that some people desire to please God because at some point we are all going to die and when we do, we will experiance judgement by God himself. The answers “I didnt know” or “I didnt feel like it” most likly wont cut it.

Another reason people think they need to be or act religious is becasue they think what they do will get them into heaven. I hate to say it but those who beleive that are dead wrong and by dead I mean NOT going to Heavan.

OBTW, Religion is something that is man made! You are either a Christian or your not. And Christian doesnt mean that you believe in God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost because satan himself beleives that and he (satan) isnt a Christian.

Long answer to say that the reason people do it is because they feel its the right thing to do. Same reason why people dont kick puppies…=]
 
Amen. practice leads to becoming proficient. As is anything else in life.

Whats happening with your emotional needs with Christianity? I get the impression you feel a lack as opposed to Zen/Taoist. IMHO, I believe this could work in unison, and enhance your emotional state. Not the total concept of Zen, but aspects of it correctly applied to Christianity. For example with a Contemplative/Meditative state, thus centering correctly on the Lord, then seeing reality in truth.

There are also just dry periods. The Lord isn’t a light-switch which can be turned on and off. Its His Will, His Grace.

IMHO without knowing how far you traveled on the path of Zen, I would speak to a Catholic Priest as a Spiriual advisor, and unless you have some pre-conceived notion about the Rosary or Catholicism, which is often a result of learned behavior. I would pray the Rosary daily, ask for nothing in return, make an honest effort at it for a year. And see what happens with spiritual/emotional needs as opposed to wants.

If you can open up you mind enough to trust Zen, then in truth there shouldn’t be a problem trusting the spiritual aspect of Catholicism.

For me most Buddists or followers of Zen, who deeply follow its spiritual path, I’ve found understand the mystical aspect of Catholicism, which is well documented.

Peace
Thank you, you may be onto something there. I have no personal experience with the Catholic mystic tradition, but I’ve read a little about it, and it does appeal to me. I’ll think over your suggestion. 🙂
 
Bottom line is that there are plently of people who are satisfied without “being” religious. In fact I would say the majority of people on the planet are that way. There is a passage in the Bible (KJV) that states “Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.”

In saying that, how many people are actually looking to find it? So its not something people are born with. I think that some people desire to please God because at some point we are all going to die and when we do, we will experiance judgement by God himself. The answers “I didnt know” or “I didnt feel like it” most likly wont cut it.

Another reason people think they need to be or act religious is becasue they think what they do will get them into heaven. I hate to say it but those who beleive that are dead wrong and by dead I mean NOT going to Heavan.

OBTW, Religion is something that is man made! You are either a Christian or your not. And Christian doesnt mean that you believe in God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost because satan himself beleives that and he (satan) isnt a Christian.

Long answer to say that the reason people do it is because they feel its the right thing to do. Same reason why people dont kick puppies…=]
This is like the whole “Christianity is not a religion but a relationship” thing I heard from Protestants/non Catholics when I was Catholic
This board is to complicated for such a paradigm shift.

Maybe the question I should ask is:

Why do you need God?Why do you need to be spiritual?I feel fine without it.What is so wrong with the idea that there is no afterlife, no Creator , etc? YES, we experience immaterial things like love, etc…and religion/God explains those things…but why not just go without explanations?

I’m not saying you’re all wrong, but what about life without God/religion/spiritualism, etc? I really want to understand this.***

Peace
 
I think it is clear:

People are religious because not only do they believe in God, but they feel the need to praise/worship/be friends/talk to that God.
People are also religious because they believe in God and love God.

This is the kind of thing you say that is confusing:
This assumption that all other myths/religions are a “continuation of what has been placed in the human heart (not the physical organ)” seems like an "excuse’.
Any responses to my concern that maybe Christianity (particularly Catholicism) is surviving because of natural selection (non -biological)?
God of the gaps? If you can’t explain it, insert God into the mix?
I still think no religion makes the most sense. Even if there is God, why care? Why not remain apathetic?
Still, no religious person on here is able to offer a good response to my concern about all current religions being human inventions and survivors of natural selection. That is my concern because I just don’t want to be religious without knowing it is true. Even if we have some sort of desire for God, it might be a weakness.
I get it, you’re implying God did those things. OK. Even if God did, I don’t care. I’m concerned about BEING RELIGIOUS not about the existence of God
So what is it you’re actually looking for? I thought we had gotten somewhere quite a bit earlier, but not it’s changed again.

You say you are concerned about being religious, NOT about the existence of God, but ultimately you keep questioning why people believe, not why people are religious. You have received many, many answers on why people are religious, but then you are critical because they can’t know God exists, and they don’t answer your question about natural selection.

If you want an answer to that, start a new thread. Maybe somebody interested in answering that question will see it and give you one. But for now, it seems whatever someone says, you subtly change the topic.

Some people are religious because they believe in God and love him. Some are religious for other reasons, some of which you’ve seen here. If you are interested in the variety of reasons for people to be “religious”, you’ve gotten that. If you want an answer to something else, ask it in the title of your thread so you get people interested in answering it.

You leave the impression that people can’t answer your questions, but you keep changing the question. You say you’re not interested in whether or not God exists, but then keep getting at “what if it’s not true?” That is quite a bit different than “why do people practice religion.”
 
This is like the whole “Christianity is not a religion but a relationship” thing I heard from Protestants/non Catholics when I was Catholic
This board is to complicated for such a paradigm shift.

Maybe the question I should ask is:

Why do you need God?Why do you need to be spiritual?I feel fine without it.What is so wrong with the idea that there is no afterlife, no Creator , etc? YES, we experience immaterial things like love, etc…and religion/God explains those things…but why not just go without explanations?

I’m not saying you’re all wrong, but what about life without God/religion/spiritualism, etc? I really want to understand this.***

Peace
Or maybe “why do you choose to be spiritual?” Some people make that choice, and it’s not about feeling good about life, it’s about what they think is true.
 
People are also religious because they believe in God and love God.

This is the kind of thing you say that is confusing:

So what is it you’re actually looking for? I thought we had gotten somewhere quite a bit earlier, but not it’s changed again.

You say you are concerned about being religious, NOT about the existence of God, but ultimately you keep questioning why people believe, not why people are religious. You have received many, many answers on why people are religious, but then you are critical because they can’t know God exists, and they don’t answer your question about natural selection.

If you want an answer to that, start a new thread. Maybe somebody interested in answering that question will see it and give you one. But for now, it seems whatever someone says, you subtly change the topic.

Some people are religious because they believe in God and love him. Some are religious for other reasons, some of which you’ve seen here. If you are interested in the variety of reasons for people to be “religious”, you’ve gotten that. If you want an answer to something else, ask it in the title of your thread so you get people interested in answering it.

You leave the impression that people can’t answer your questions, but you keep changing the question. You say you’re not interested in whether or not God exists, but then keep getting at “what if it’s not true?” That is quite a bit different than “why do people practice religion.”
OK. I get it. My question of being religious…answered provided.

I’ll ask people I know about why they feel like they need God/spiritual life, etc.

Thanks everyone!
 
OK. I get it. My question of being religious…answered provided.

I’ll ask people I know about why they feel like they need God/spiritual life, etc.

Thanks everyone!
I am not trying to dissuade you from being here. I’m suggesting that if your question is something different, because is certainly appears that it is, start a thread about those other concerns. You will get people answering those questions who have an interest in them.
 
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