Why so many gay couples in tv shows?

[Loud-living-dogma]

The issue is one of purely moral consideration, not age appropriateness. Frankly, I’d imagine children will accept what their parents say on the matter. There might be a question or two, but children don’t tend to really rebel against their parents’ morals until they become teenagers, at which point you’d probably have to be more convincing than “because God said so” on pretty much everything.

Rozellelily:

scriptwriters etc shouldn’t be pushing agendas onto kids.

I doubt the existence of an agenda is a problem If that were the case, people would also be complaining about anti-bullying, anti-drug, and pro-family agendas. They’d also be yelling at VeggieTales for having a clear Christian agenda. Basically, trying to frame the issue as screenwriters having an agenda is disingenuous. It’s that what was shown/taught wasn’t to the person’s liking.

It’s not kids of that age that are asking for these characters-they are more interested in lions and fairies,magic,talking funny animals etc-so why the necessity to add them to kids shows?

When I was a kid, many of my favorite shows and movies had some romantic elements in them. Sure, not all of them did, but I’d say that a good chunk did. I always liked it, even if I obviously never wrote the producers and asked for them to keep up.

Kids will be exposed to things in this modern world but responsible parenting means filtering things.

At least where I live, filtering out LGBT content would mean not leaving the house. If I were a parent, I’d rather not have the discussion with a gay couple there or in the middle of Mass. A TV show makes it easier to do that.

Edit: To clarify, my church isn’t “accepting”. The priests are all pretty conservative but would probably bring the topic up during the homily sooner or later.

Well, parents and kids have to seek out VeggieTales. I’m pretty sure that it is not on regular broadcast (mainstream) TV, the way that all kinds of immoral content is on regular broadcast / mainstream TV.
If we feel that we can’t leave our houses without being confronted without immoral sexual content,then the extreme LGBT lobby has won.
So really, you would prefer to bring the immoral content into your domestic church (your home), and you would prefer not to have it brought up at Mass? I guess I’m not sure why anyone would want that.

 

[Al1234]

These programs were not targeted at kids though. I do get concerned about what is promoted to kids these days. I worry about the implications.

 

[Atreju]

You mean like taking offense at a children’s cartoon?

 

[Sarcelle]

I have been denounced by feminists for being against abortion.

Abortion seems to be a sacrament to them.

I know there are such women who call themselves Feminists for Life but they too have been banned from women’s marches.

 

[ZMystiCat]

If it’s a social environment where the child is already exposed to these things then maybe your right that its better to talk to them about these issues at that stage.
If however they aren’t already exposed to this (through seeing gay moms at school pickup etc) then I don’t see why scriptwriters have to throw it in to kids films.
It seems self serving.

That’s part of my point, though. Children are being exposed to this stuff even at a very young age, and I’d imagine that it is more common now than it was twenty years ago. Granted, how exposed they are is probably location dependent. A child in rural Alabama probably won’t see it as frequently as a child in San Francisco or Seattle, but a lack of exposure is still not something you can reasonably assume anymore.

Well, parents and kids have to seek out VeggieTales. I’m pretty sure that it is not on regular broadcast (mainstream) TV, the way that all kinds of immoral content is on regular broadcast / mainstream TV.

A couple of recent VeggieTales shows are exclusive to Netflix, which certainly counts as mainstream now.

If we feel that we can’t leave our houses without being confronted without immoral sexual content,then the extreme LGBT lobby has won.

Seeing two guys holding hands is hardly “sexual”, but it still might prompt a question from a child. They may not understand at the level that we do, the same way that they probably don’t think of sex when watching anything with romance and/or childbirth. They still, however, can at least grasp the idea of people being married and the cultural indications that romance is involved.

So really, you would prefer to bring the immoral content into your domestic church (your home), and you would prefer not to have it brought up at Mass? I guess I’m not sure why anyone would want that.

It’s not that I don’t want it brought up at Mass. It’s that I don’t want to have to disturb everyone by educating my child about it during Mass because something the priest said sparked questions about it.

 

[MagdalenaRita]

I have been denounced by feminists for being against abortion.

Abortion seems to be a sacrament to them.

That is sad, but yes it is like a sacrament to them.

 

[exnihilo]

In my comment i was stating major censorship (widespread censorship of all things immoral) and not censorship altogether.

This gets hard to quantify. But it seems to me the more powerful the government the more material is censored. So censorship is really likely a factor of the power of the state. For instance fascists, communists, socialists, dictators, and powerful monarchs tend to censor more content.

All countries have some censorship but the censorship is usually based on what the “status quo” finds offensive and not based off Christian values.

Ain’t that the truth, whatever is censored is not typically because of Christian values.

 

[UltimateChikorita]

freemasons tbh

 

[hope]

A sad but accurate view. Here in my small town a preschool supervisor was accused of molesting some students. The male supervisor was accused just because he was a man. The hospital administrator, from the larger city, said he did it why? Because all men are guilty, he sued and won but not before putting himself and family through hell. To be clear the hospital only read the initial report and did not look at any evidence because as they stated he was a man and therefor guilty. There was no evidence against him and everything that was stated by the children was proven false. What was eventually discovered was that it was the father. .
Yes woman did protest by burning their bras which was pointed out to them was invented by a woman. I went through that age as well. I had no problems getting a loan or credit cards. There were unfair practices but I wonder if we are better now as a society that it takes both a man and a woman to provide a check to make ends meet?

 

[LilyM]

Its a problem when children are being indoctrinated by those pushing the homosexual agenda.

Is it really indoctrination to show what is, in an ever-increasing number of places, now simple reality? Just as real as men and women marrying?

Sure, it’s an incredibly messy, complicated and highly morally problematic reality for us as Catholics, but does it serve anyone to act like it doesn’t happen?

 

[Loud-living-dogma]

prayerrider:

Its a problem when children are being indoctrinated by those pushing the homosexual agenda.

Is it really indoctrination to show what is, in an ever-increasing number of places, now simple reality? Just as real as men and women marrying?

Sure, it’s an incredibly messy, complicated and highly morally problematic reality for us as Catholics, but does it serve anyone to act like it doesn’t happen?

Of course it is indoctrination! There are a lot of unsavory immoral things that happen in life - - do we present them in children’s shows? They are reality too. Why introduce young children to them, just to confuse the children? Just the fact of exposing children to homosexuality is robbing them of their innocence.
From the catechism:
II. Respect for the Dignity of Persons

Respect for the souls of others: scandal

2284 Scandal is an attitude or behavior which leads another to do evil. the person who gives scandal becomes his neighbor’s tempter. He damages virtue and integrity; he may even draw his brother into spiritual death. Scandal is a grave offense if by deed or omission another is deliberately led into a grave offense.

2285 Scandal takes on a particular gravity by reason of the authority of those who cause it or the weakness of those who are scandalized. It prompted our Lord to utter this curse: "Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened round his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea."85 Scandal is grave when given by those who by nature or office are obliged to teach and educate others. Jesus reproaches the scribes and Pharisees on this account: he likens them to wolves in sheep’s clothing.86

2286 Scandal can be provoked by laws or institutions, by fashion or opinion.

 

[prayerrider]

Absolutely! Children are being sexualized at younger and younger ages, through media and through public school curricula. Even worse, they are being homosexualized. This is systematic and planned, with the end goal of convincing everyone that homosexual activity is normal and virtuous. Hence, indoctrination is an apt term.
And normalizing homosexual activity isn’t just morally problematic. It is pure evil.

 

[edwest]

That’s not the point. When I go to the mall, for example, I can’t tell if anyone’s gay. However, on TV, the character(s) are identified. Depending on which TV shows they appear on, young people can be confused. Of the gay people I used to work with, this was never an issue. Privacy meant privacy and we got along. I did not think for one second about what they did on their own time. Then, privacy disappeared. The US Supreme Court made a grave error in redefining marriage. Marriage is not the union of any two people. Shortly after the decision, a man sued so he could marry two women.

In schools, children as young as 5 are being given story books to read like King and King, where the prince falls for another prince. Kids do not have the mental or emotional maturity to understand this, and ‘it’s not a parental notification issue.’ So when Billy comes homes and asks how two men can get married, things like the Supreme Court are abstract ideas. This is indoctrination. Book publishers that have traditionally produced material for kids are now adding “out and proud” characters.

 

[vz71]

Sure, it’s an incredibly messy, complicated and highly morally problematic reality for us as Catholics, but does it serve anyone to act like it doesn’t happen?

It serves even less to pretend it is more common than it really is, or that it is anything moral.

 

[prayerrider]

Yep. I often read story books to children in the course of my duties. I have to personally vet everything now. I may not be able to stem the wicked tide of indoctrination but at least I can try to avoid enabling it.

 

[LilyM]

LilyM:

Sure, it’s an incredibly messy, complicated and highly morally problematic reality for us as Catholics, but does it serve anyone to act like it doesn’t happen?

It serves even less to pretend it is more common than it really is, or that it is anything moral.

I guess all those Road Runner cartoons I watched as a child must’ve taught me that it was both common and morally fine and dandy for folks to go around dropping 100 tonne anvils on each other’s heads

 

[LilyM]

Absolutely! Children are being sexualized at younger and younger ages, through media and through public school curricula. Even worse, they are being homosexualized. This is systematic and planned, with the end goal of convincing everyone that homosexual activity is normal and virtuous. Hence, indoctrination is an apt term.
And normalizing homosexual activity isn’t just morally problematic. It is pure evil.

And I suppose talking to kids - as we do - about heterosexual marriage equally exposes them to unnecessarily adult concepts and sexualized them too early?

 

[vz71]

And I suppose talking to kids - as we do - about heterosexual marriage equally exposes them to unnecessarily adult concepts and sexualized them too early?

Not at all.
A real marriage is a model for God’s love for us.

 

[TC3033]

through public school curricula

As someone who worked in a Catholic high school and now lives with a public school teacher (and both products of public school) can you lay out what in the public school curriculum (considering districts control much of their own…so that’s a pretty broad brush) is sexualizing kids and purposefully is homosexualizing them (that’s actually a thing?)?

Personally I find this statement to be inaccurate…at best.

 

[edwest]

Uh, cartoons are just that.