Why the bible is most assuredly not a Catholic book,

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mercygate said:
And doesn’t the Epistle to the Hebrews tell us not to absent ourselves from the assembly? And what were they DOING at the assembly? Um. Was it celebrating the Eucharist? Is THAT why the author warns against “believng the covenant blood to be common?”
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But we do not obstain from the assembly and we do have the eucharist.
 
po18guy said:
And, please know that Catholics have everything you love about Christ, and more. We carry Christ physically within us, as He spoke in John 6. He is not only spiritual food, but real food and drink. We spend time in His presence at Adoration. How do you beat that?

We know that you love Christ - we are simply telling you that there is much more to him than the <1% of His life written in the bible. Much more.

We boast only in our Lord, and invite you.

Christ’s peace.
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You have made an object formed by human hands into an idol.
Yes there is much in the life of Christ that we can continuaaly walk in.
 
Hisalone said:
allhers your moniker says more than you know.
Let me say this slowly and let me say this again.
You believe that in the eucharist you recieve Christ.
I understand that you believe this I really do.
What I am saying to you is that you can recieve, walk in, walk with Christ at anytime. You can live in the continual presensece of God and have the continual presence of God abiding, residing within you continually. The real presence of God is this habitation.
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You are proposing that having Christ truly present in the Eucharist somehow closes off abiding in his presence. Whatever your understanding of Catholic spirituality might be, I assure you, it falls far short of the real thing if you think we do not have the abiding presence of Christ in our hearts.

Ever read The Practice of the Presence of God by Brother Lawrence?
 
Hisalone said:
You have made an object formed by human hands into an idol.
Yes there is much in the life of Christ that we can continuaaly walk in.
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What “idol?” Catholics worship only God.

At any rate, the topic is “Why the Bible is most assuredly not a Catholic book.” Nothing said so far supports that premise. Running around making all kinds of other objections to the Catholic faith does nothing to advance the argument.
 
mercygate said:
You are proposing that having Christ truly present in the Eucharist somehow closes off abiding in his presence. Whatever your understanding of Catholic spirituality might be, I assure you, it falls far short of the real thing if you think we do not have the abiding presence of Christ in our hearts.

Ever read The Practice of the Presence of God by Brother Lawrence?
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Sure I have read it.
The Catholics on this board talk nothing else except Eucharist. By their very words they show that they do not know of the continual Real Presence of God that is available to them.
 
Gamera said:
What “idol?” Catholics worship only God.

At any rate, the topic is “Why the Bible is most assuredly not a Catholic book.” Nothing said so far supports that premise. Running around making all kinds of other objections to the Catholic faith does nothing to advance the argument.
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This again is a false allegation.
No one has been able to dispute that the bible is a Jewish book.
 
Hisalone said:
allhers your moniker says more than you know.
Let me say this slowly and let me say this again.
You believe that in the eucharist you recieve Christ.
I understand that you believe this I really do.
What I am saying to you is that you can recieve, walk in, walk with Christ at anytime. You can live in the continual presensece of God and have the continual presence of God abiding, residing within you continually. The real presence of God is this habitation.
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Yes I know, we have the fullness, He, HIMSELF
 
Hisalone said:
Do you love Christ enough to follow where He leads even if it is outside the Catholic Church even if it means to turn away from the faith of all your family and your support group to follow Him. Do you have the courage to do that?
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Jesus doesn’t lead us out of the Church that He founded. We’re still here, and we’re staying with HIM.
 
Hisalone said:
Do you love Christ enough to follow where He leads even if it is outside the Catholic Church even if it means to turn away from the faith of all your family and your support group to follow Him. Do you have the courage to do that?
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I note that you did not directly answer. Here’s my answer: Yes! I have no command but to follow Christ everywhere He leads. Know that I have been outside. I have been elsewhere most of my life.

It is the Holy Spirit leads to unity, to home in Christ’s church. From the basis of your continuing posts, I do not believe your heart is open to the possibility of Christ being in the church that He founded for your sake. A poison has crept into your view of that church. For the sake of your soul, please consider where that poison came from. Please consider who is the sower of discord, the provider of poison. Think big picture. Good vs. evil. Something to ponder.

If you choose to live in the past, and condemn the faith because of the past behavior of its members, you should not be Christian. Scripture documents the faithlessness, the anger, the jealousy, the failures of the Apostles as they abandoned Christ. And, they touched Christ, were touched by Him and walked in His presence. Since they were so unbelieving, so attached to this world, why follow their path?

The spirit of discord, the spirit of separation leads away from unity. Please explain why you think you have the fulness of Christ in a faith tradition that broke off from the original church, taking most, but not all, with it? This is if you are high-church Lutheran. If not, then you are in a faith which is derived from several derivations of Lutheran tradition. Only one church has the fulness. The others broke off, taking most, but not all, with them. Continue this for 500 years and what you have is a love of the concept of Christ, but a disdain for Christ in the Flesh.

Do not let your heart be poisoned to the faith of our fathers, to the presence of Christ in the flesh, even to your brothers and sisters. Do you want only just enough of Christ to be saved? Who decides that? There is more to Christ. Seek it and you shall find it.

Christ’s peace be in your heart.
 
To Hisalone you stated that no one has explained how the Bible is not a Jewish book. Here it is.

You define the Bible as a Jewish book. I am not sure how this can be true as the Jewish Council of Jabneh rejected all of the New Testament around the year 90 AD. The Gospel of Luke was completed between the years of 85 and 95 AD. So just as the final New Testament books were being completed they were reject by the Jewish people. Please tell me how that you think that the Bible is a Jewish book as they formally rejected the New Testament.

The Catholic Church selected from 50 Gospels, 22 books of Acts and several Epistle and defined what is today the Bible. They then published the Bible for 1,500 years.

Please tell me how it is a Jewish book. The book in your hand was formally rejected by the Jewish People in the year 90 AD.
 
Hisalone said:
This again is a false allegation.
No one has been able to dispute that the bible is a Jewish book.
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I apologize as I originally posted to Wisdomseeker in error.

You define the Bible as a Jewish book. I am not sure how this can be true as the Jewish Council of Jabneh rejected all of the New Testament around the year 90 AD. The Gospel of Luke was completed between the years of 85 and 95 AD. So just as the final New Testament books were being completed they were reject by the Jewish people. Please tell me how that you think that the Bible is a Jewish book as they formally rejected the New Testament.

The Catholic Church selected from over 50 Gospels, 22 books of Acts and several Epistle and defined what is today the Bible. They then published the Bible for 1,500 years.

Please tell me how it is a Jewish book. The book in your hand was formally rejected by the Jewish People in the year 90 AD.
 
Hisalone said:
You have made an object formed by human hands into an idol.
Yes there is much in the life of Christ that we can continuaaly walk in.
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You mean the bible? I agree with you there. Many risk eternal punishment out of bible worship, I am afraid.
 
Hisalone said:
Sure I have read it.
The Catholics on this board talk nothing else except Eucharist. By their very words they show that they do not know of the continual Real Presence of God that is available to them.
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OK, so explain to us cavemen, who live in darkness. Let’s see what you got.
 
Hisalone,
The Canon of Scripture was received as Divinely inspired since 382 at a Council at Rome under Pope Damasus, then offically bound in 1546 at a Council of Trent under Pope Paul (the sixth I believe). The Deuterocanonical books, (in spite of opposition of Jewish scholars and Protestant leaders, that they should not be included, were included.)
Council of Trent, Dogmatic decree: De Canonicis Scripturis.
The Old Testament has 46 books, the New Testament has 27.
In issuing the decree, the Fathers added: “The council follows the example of the Orthodox Fathers and with the same sense of devotion and reverence with which it accepts and venerates all the books of both the New and Old Testaments, since one God is author of both; it also accepts and venerates traditions concerned with faith and morals as having been received orally from Christ, or inspired by the Holy Spirit and continuously preserved in the Catholic Church.”
 
allhers said:
:eek: Will do.
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Know that he is fully indoctrinated in a very new, very shallow faith. This “faith” absolutely condemns the Catholic church out of blissful ignorance and the leading of the spirit of antichrist. I see each of the hackneyed and false accusations repeated here. It’s almost like programming! Only a revelation by the Holy Spirit can assist such lost believers.

But, they remain beloved souls, so we are called to lift them up in prayer.
 
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