Why the Islamic Hadiths are not too reliable

[dolphinlove]

**That is no argument. The Abraham of OT is called Ibraheem in Quran. Then you would say that he is not the same person?

Moses is called Musa in Quran. You will say that he is not the same person. Your Jesus is called Isa in Quran. And your christ is no where. It is a greek word and Jesus was not a Greek person. So why you call your Jesus as christ??

Also your religion is named after a person (christ?). that is not a good thing at all. It is bad for a religion to be called by a persons name or by the name of a place. So your christianity is also foriegn. That is greek and not related to the place of Jesus. It is more related to the place of paul. jesus did not go to Greece. How you will explain those things to your friends?**

I was implying the Jesus in the quran and the Jesus in the bible are not the same. But again, you start rambling on!
And once again, Angelos has done a wonderful job of answering your questions and so has Irenaeus07 so there is no need for me to continue with your weak arguments.

 

[planten]

The answer to your question is simply, but the real question is this.

If Jesus wasn’t greek, why did the Quran arabize the Greek name of Jesus, Iēsous, and not the Aramic name of Jesus, Yeshua ? I mean the Arabic speaking Christian refer to Jesus as Yashua, which is the arabization of the Aramic, Yeshua.

Isn’t that the real question??? I mean, since you believe the Quran came directly from God??? Why did God chose, Isa, the Arabization of the Greek, Iēsous, name for Jesus, and not Yashua, the Arabization of the Aramic, Yeshua, which is the name Arabic speaking Christians refer to Jesus???

But to answer your question.

Jesus’ primary language was Aramic, and language of the gentiles of his area and time, was Greek and also there were many Greek speaking Jews, which is why 72 Jewish scholars two hundred years before Jesus, took the time to translated the Hebrew Old Testament into Greek which is known as the Septuagent, which is quoted frequently in the New Testament by Jesus. In the New Testament, Jesus uses quotes from the both the Greek and Hebrew Old Testament. There is a mixture.

Jesus knew and spoke Greek.

**Good information. Jesus knew and spoke Greek, I hope he did not speak to people in greek. All his sermons and lectures may not be in Greek.

I was not discussing the word Jesus. I was discussing the word “Christ”. Christ seems to be Greek and so is Chrsitianity partly Greek and partly Italian (Roman Catholic). That is again territorial.

No harm. You can have it the way you like. Related to a place or a person.**

 

[Irenaeus07]

I was not discussing the word Jesus. I was discussing the word “Christ”. Christ seems to be Greek and so is Chrsitianity partly Greek and partly Italian (Roman Catholic). That is again territorial.

No harm. You can have it the way you like. Related to a place or a person.

Also your religion is named after a person (christ?). that is not a good thing at all.

Why isn’t it a good thing??? A name is like clothing. A thief dressed up in a suit is still a thief.

This is the best thing you can come up with against Christianity. That is it named after Christ.

So what??? I don’t get the point of the argument.

Who cares what the religion is called? The point is the religion true or not. Isn’t that the point?

Your religion is called Islam. So what??? Our religion is called Christianity. So what???

The point isn’t the name.

Changing the name doesn’t change what the religion teaches. The teachings of both religions will remain the same, irregardless of what we called the religion.

what is your point??? I don’t get the point you are trying to make.

 

[Angelos]

**
I was not discussing the word Jesus. I was discussing the word “Christ”. Christ seems to be Greek and so is Chrsitianity partly Greek and partly Italian (Roman Catholic). **

… and people here now know perfectly well why you do not want to discuss the name “Jesus”.

More, the question why the Koran always calls Christians “Nazareans” (related to the name of Jesus’ hometown) has not been answered by you yet!

 

[dolphinlove]

More, the question why the Koran always calls Christians “Nazareans” (related to the name of Jesus’ hometown) has not been answered by you yet!

And if it is answered, i will be surprised…

 

[inJESUS]

And if it is answered, i will be surprised…

yes you will …Nazareen (nasara) and Christians (masihiyyeen) are not the same historically yet Muhammad decided to call us the same