Why the Left Hates American Sniper

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He called Iraqis “savages” and “inhuman” when they were only defending their country from invaders who had no right to be there
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Al Qaeda wasn’t necessarily Iraqui. Al Qaeda were invaders just as much. Quite something to say about Terrorists.
 
Let’s clarify, even if the Iraq war is “illegal” which many people would say is so, to me, the soldier in the field needs to be supported, he did not act illegally.

Some people say the US could have stopped the Rwandan genocide. I think we should have but one could say that would have likewise been an illegal act.

But the individual in the military did not declare the war or make the decision to invade.
 
Amazing how some cannot let go of the Iraq War. Will you be fighting it for the 1000th time when you’re 72 years old…sheesh!

I saw the movie and it was outstanding, very accurate based on my extensive contact with troops during the Iraq War. I also saw Chris Kyle interviewed on numerous occasions and he was like many of our most highly decorated warriors, humble and inspired by duty, honor, and country something that has been forgotten by the Left (the subject of this thread BTW) who sip lattes while better men defend us by putting their lives on the line instead of putting their mouths in overdrive.

The Left hates Chris Kyle because in their heart of hearts they know he’s a better man than they are. He is a man “with a chest” versus the weak kneed relativists who battle plastic grocery bags and vaping for lack of courage to battle their own weaknesses and failings.

I think particularly you could see in the movie the mental anguish Kyle went through when faced with decisions whether or not to shoot a non traditional combantant such as the woman and the child. When the target was a “clear and present danger” as were many, he didn’t hesitate but when the target was not, the hesitency showed the humanity.

Of particular interest was the portion of the movie dealing with the life and death of Marc Lee, the first SEAL killed in Iraq. He was a native son from my state and I attended his funeral to stand in the flag line and prevent the family from being harassed by the Westboro Baptist Church.

It was an outstanding movie, a balanced and nuanced picture of what life was like for our military and as important those serving at home as they wait for their loved ones to return. The Left hates American Sniper because they know it shines the light of truth on the weakness and relativism that rules in Hollywood and in the media.
 
Not all Americans supported that illegal war, I did at first, but then I was younger and dumber.
I find it very sad that so many Catholics reap praise upon this travesty of a movie. Fundamentalists and evangelicals I can blink at, because they don’t know any better. But Catholics?
I also find the silence from others rather deafening. Not just on CA, but on social media. They are afraid of saying anything lest they be attacked.
The truth about this “hero” is there for all the world to see…if you wish look at it. It is rather frightening to me that this man is being idolized. And Americans with a conscience had better think carefully before they jump on the bandwagon. This is not good for our culture and it is not good for our soul.
Nazi Germany went down this same road.
I wonder how many Germans remained silent because they were afraid?
 
Son_of_Niall said:
Not all Americans supported that illegal war, I did at first, but then I was younger and dumber.
I find it very sad that so many Catholics reap praise upon this travesty of a movie. Fundamentalists and evangelicals I can blink at, because they don’t know any better. But Catholics?
I also find the silence from others rather deafening. Not just on CA, but on social media. They are afraid of saying anything lest they be attacked.
The truth about this “hero” is there for all the world to see…if you wish look at it. It is rather frightening to me that this man is being idolized. And Americans with a conscience had better think carefully before they jump on the bandwagon. This is not good for our culture and it is not good for our soul.
Nazi Germany went down this same road.
I wonder how many Germans remained silent because they were afraid?
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🤷 Very curious. Have you seen the movie? Read the book? Watched any of Chris Kyle’s interviews? Maybe there is “silence” because people actually support what Chief Kyle did on behalf of his country. Maybe there is “silence” because people who saw the movie actually liked it? Heaven forbid! You are neither silent nor afraid to speak your mind…so you contradict your own point with your very post.

I see much more fear speaking out against the promotion of homosexual “rights” than speaking out against this movie or Chris Kyle. I have yet to hear demands that anyone be silenced for their opinions of American Sniper but anyone saying they believe marriage is between a man or a woman is denounced, picketed, harassed, boycotted and demands for silence ensue. Talk about bass-ackwards.
 
Caldera599 said:
He called Iraqis “savages” and “inhuman” when they were only defending their country from invaders who had no right to be there. He said he loved killling and wanted to keep doing it. Sounds like a serial killer to me.

But Americans keep heaping praise on him and defending the criminal invasion of Iraq. And we wonder why bad things keep happening to this country. I hate this place and if you ask me we deserve all the scorn we get.
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You’re quite free to hate your own country, although I find it despicable, but do you mind quoting those statements he supposedly said in full? Taking quotes out of context to create a false impression is calumny.
 
“American Sniper” is a great film and book, about a great man, doing a great job! The
audience I attended the movie with were deeply moved with love of country, the warrior, the man and his dedication to brotherly love. At the end of the film, credits were rolling, there was no thunderous applause. Rather, a solemn, couldn’t hear a pin drop, silence! No one spoke until they were clear of the area. This is the kind of praise that is priceless!

Everybody there knew what this was about. I’d say they “got it”!

Michael Moore is a leading example of the empty headed. I’m not surprised that he hates the movie. He can stay out on a rock in the ocean with his opinions.
 
Well that’s okay. There are some people that I really do NOT want to enjoy the film American Sniper!
 
It’s a war movie that I haven’t seen but enjoy reading people’s (name removed by moderator)ut.

When one is up on the front-lines, if it be World War II in the South Pacific or Europe, you may well be not using the most flattering language to describe the enemy.

Sometimes America does things we may or may not agree with, actions in Syria now, Libya, Kosovo, Serbia, all of these can be questioned as to their legality. Also, our morals may be questioned for say, we or the UN not doing more in Rwanda and it sounds like we probably could have.

csmonitor.com/World/Africa/2009/0407/p06s14-woaf.html

And it’s a War movie, odd, I don’t see what is probably my favorite war movie, “Saving Private Ryan” and think it is glorifying aggression or even others I might like such as “Hamburger Hill” and a few others. Then, somehow, if one likes these movies, now they being extreme.

It’s for the Americans, for the soldiers and even many in Baghdad seemed not to mind the movie.
 
TN_VOL said:
Once while on the Conan O’Brien show he laughed about accidentally shooting an Iraqi insurgent, doesn’t sound like someone stressed to me.
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I was curious enough about your claim to pull up the interview, and like many claims being made by those in the media on the Left, this was taken out of context and is not as you described it. Conan was saying how amazing it was to be able to shoot an enemy soldier at 2100 yards (i.e., the length of 21 football fields), an event described in Kyle’s book. O’Brien said he couldn’t even understand making a shot from that distance, and Kyle brushed it off and tried to be humble, saying he couldn’t understand it either. Conan then makes a joke that “it must have been an accident, you dropped your rifle?” Kyle then makes a joking comment that yeah, he set it up, accidentally pulled the trigger, and the guy went down. In context, he was not saying he accidentally killed an insurgent, he was responding to Conan’s joke.

You all can view the interview here. Conan comes across as respectful of his achievements and Chief Kyle comes across as humble and polite, giving credit to other snipers like Sgt. Carlos Hathcock in Vietnam: youtube.com/watch?v=IiVDtNjORbY
 
Son_of_Niall said:
Not all Americans supported that illegal war, I did at first, but then I was younger and dumber.
***I find it very sad that so many Catholics reap praise upon this travesty of a movie. Fundamentalists and evangelicals I can blink at, because they don’t know any better. But Catholics? ***
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What’s wrong with Fundamentalists and Evangelicals? That’s a rather derisive thing to say about such people. What if we talking about ethnic groups or skin color and said something like that? I note, Creed is something listed in the law as a protected class.

Did you hear about the Japanese Christian man that went to the Middle East looking for his friend and was beheaded? christiannews.net/2015/02/01/isis-beheads-japanese-christian-who-tried-to-save-captured-friend/ I don’t know if he was Christian, Catholic, Lutheran or not but he seemed to do a very brave thing.
I also find the silence from others rather deafening. Not just on CA, but on social media. They are afraid of saying anything lest they be attacked.
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Perhaps we could name the particular persons and discuss this issue.
The truth about this “hero” is there for all the world to see…if you wish look at it. It is rather frightening to me that this man is being idolized. And Americans with a conscience had better think carefully before they jump on the bandwagon. This is not good for our culture and it is not good for our soul.
Nazi Germany went down this same road.
I wonder how many Germans remained silent because they were afraid?
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Caldera599 said:
He called Iraqis “savages” and “inhuman” when they were only defending their country from invaders who had no right to be there. He said he loved killling and wanted to keep doing it. Sounds like a serial killer to me.

But Americans keep heaping praise on him and defending the criminal invasion of Iraq. And we wonder why bad things keep happening to this country. I hate this place and if you ask me we deserve all the scorn we get.
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I’ll also point out that probably not a single insurgent we fought thought they were “defending their country from invaders who had no right to be there.” The Iraqis I have met, and as most sociologists agree, have almost no sense of national consciousness, which is not surprising after living under a psychotic dictator and his murderous sons. As a republic, it is only as old as 1958. The Iraqis don’t fight for a nation, they fight for their factions - tribal affiliations, family vendettas, religious factions and sub-factions, terrorist cells, and criminal gangs - many of the warring factions had no essential ideology, or at best only a pretense of one, but were armed criminal gangs like the Crips and Bloods, profiting from the chaos by ransom kidnappings, shake-down rackets, drug dealing (many of the insurgents were high as a kite while fighting), and armed robberies.

It is more than a little naive to see the many warring, tribal factions as the equivalent of George Washington and the Minutemen fighting for national independence, as Michael Moore claims.
 
Arizona_Mike said:
I’ll also point out that probably not a single insurgent we fought thought they were "defending their country from invaders who had no right to be there." The Iraqis I have met, and as most sociologists agree, have almost no sense of national consciousness, which is not surprising after living under a psychotic dictator and his murderous sons. As a republic, it is only as old as 1958. The Iraqis don’t fight for a nation, they fight for their factions - tribal affiliations, family vendettas, religious factions and sub-factions, terrorist cells, and criminal gangs - many of the warring factions had no essential ideology, or at best only a pretense of one, but were armed criminal gangs like the Crips and Bloods, profiting from the chaos by ransom kidnappings, shake-down rackets, drug dealing (many of the insurgents were high as a kite while fighting), and armed robberies.
It is more than a little naive to see the many warring, tribal factions as the equivalent of George Washington and the Minutemen fighting for national independence, as Michael Moore claims.
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This is the truth about Iraq. It was an artificially constructed nation with a multitude of tribal and religious groups, each in a specific area of the country. Depending on where our troops were stationed, they were treated as welcome guests or as invaders…based again on tribal or religious affiliations. Many of the Al Queda fighters including the leaders were NOT Iraqis. The fighting was between Iraqis far more than against American troops. As many of my “adopted” soldiers said, their victims were mostly other Iraqis and they had a practice of hitting soft targets including marketplaces, mosques and schools. One of the most heartbreaking experiences one of my troops experienced was when a school was bombed and carrying out the dead bodies of Iraqi children.

Whether or not the war was a mistake is not relevant to this thread. Chris Kyle was sent to do a job and he did it well. Further unlike the bloated egotistical potty mouthed rappers and actors who are criticizing him, Kyle was very humble and self effacing. As noted above, making a joke of his incredible achievments. I believe that the critics are looking at themselves in a mirror and seeing they don’t measure up to someone like Chris Kyle. Jealousy creates a lot of critics.
 
As a pedestrian viewer of this, many wonder if we just need to let others know whom are snipers are and so on, just like many think we don’t need to know who shot Osama Bin Laden.

I see making the rounds now, is about the British Sniper, over 170 kills. I hope they don’t make his name public. I don’t know if this is whom the Sun newspaper is publishing a story on but here is one British sniper story, killed 6 Taliban with 1 single bullet.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2593804/British-sniper-kills-six-Taliban-fighters-single-bullet.html
 
Caldera599 said:
It’s in the book
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I just watched the film and your assessment is 100% correct.🙂

It’s not even worth watching, really. It’s just a thoroughly one dimensional film with no depth or meaning, aside from cartoonish “savages” and G.I. Joe-type jingoism. And I wouldn’t even necessarily mind that if it were at least entertaining or amusing in it’s badness. But it was just lame, in my opinion.🤷
 
Midwest88 said:
I’ll also add that academia and entertainment, if you “make it,” are very much bubble worlds despite the traveling opportunities that each give to its professors and clients.
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That was an absolute perfect expression of truth.
 
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