Why the Left Likes Islam.

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undead_rat said:
The answer to this question is, obviously, that libtards and lefties are simply unaware of the many Christian teachings and dogmas that demand that we all hate Islam.

I am not so good at research so perhaps some of the other posters on this thread would be so kind as to provide links to the relevant CCC.
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You mean do not hate Islam, right?
 
ShrodingersCat said:
The left doesn’t support things Islam stands for that are at odds with its own philosophy. It supports those seeking asylum regardless of race or religion and opposes discrimination.
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Team Obama fights to have German Home-school family deported
foxnews.com/opinion/2014/03/03/team-obama-wins-fight-to-have-christian-home-school-family-deported.html

Obama’s cruel policy reversal on Cuban refugees
washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/01/14/obamas-cruel-policy-reversal-on-cuban-refugees/?utm_term=.bb3deecbc8f4
Also Muslims will get cut some slack because they come from a different culture that westerners don’t fully understand, whereas Christians ‘should know better’.
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:rotfl:

In other words, we need a double standard so leftists can virtue-signal, avoid being called racist and should radical Muslims conquer the west, they may consider not executing them.
But I have never seen a Muslim’s discriminatory position on women’s rights being supported. So I’m not sure what you are talking about specifically.
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Rallies against Islamic law draw (left-wing) counter-protests
foxnews.com/us/2017/06/10/marches-against-islamic-law-to-be-held-in-many-us-cities.html
 
Instead of guessing, and patting each other on the back when you float biased hypotheses, maybe try asking some left-leaning people what they feel about the subject. You’ll find that “the left” isn’t a monolith.
 
TeenCatholicGuy said:
Many areas of the Scriptures mandate that we should stone people to death for certain sins,
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Once again I have the chance to say that I think that such laws with punishment attached were meant to DETER the action that would hence be administered.

I haven’t really checked into it, about how many people were actually put to death by stoning, as recorded in the OT.

The Israelites didn’t want to disobey the command prohibiting murder, so they weren’t “stone” crazy about putting people to death. They took the commands very seriously. They did not want to execute an innocent person – because, loosely speaking from reading the OT some time ago, there really isn’t much relief from committing murder, in the Bible.

Sure I think stoning did happen, and as I recall that is how St. Stephen was put to death, in the NT. Again, loosely speaking, I don’t think “due process” was followed in Stephen’s case, but I could be wrong. Whatever his offense, I think he would have had to be tried by the Sanhedrin. I just don’t recall the details.
 
Rhubarb said:
Instead of guessing, and patting each other on the back when you float biased hypotheses, maybe try asking some left-leaning people what they feel about the subject. You’ll find that “the left” isn’t a monolith.
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We know the left isn’t a monolith. When I talk about the left, I mean the regressive left, not classical liberals like Dave Rubin or even Sanders supports like Tj Kirk and Maldonado.

So then do you like Islam?
 
Vico said:
The Left model from the Communist Manifesto or Karl Marx is that there is a class struggle against wealthy oppressors. All Third World peoples victimized by colonialism are oppressed and seek to be free of it through a violent struggle.
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TeenCatholicGuy said:
"They simply aren’t aware of the fact that the Shariah mandates that any apostate should be killed. This is not a concept that radical groups made up– it was said by Muhammad himself (it’s even compiled in Sahih al-Bukhari which is the most authentic collection of hadiths in the Sunni school of thought).
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They think that if someone brings an accusation about Islam that sounds bad,** that it must be because the accuser is an Islamophobe. If we present evidences that are on point and are unflattering and they still don’t see it, then they are blind. We ought to pray for people like that; words can only get you so far."

Many areas of the Scriptures mandate that we should stone people to death for certain sins,
Many are from God or the Prophets or the Apostles themselves.
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Remember the Catholic Church does not adhere to the Sola Scriptura heresy.
 
Vico said:
The Left model from the Communist Manifesto or Karl Marx is that there is a class struggle against wealthy oppressors. All Third World peoples victimized by colonialism are oppressed and seek to be free of it through a violent struggle.
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And Moslems are only religious because they are oppressed and so take refuge in theirmreligion. aonce the Left frees them from the West’s oppression, they will no longer have need of religion and so move in the become good Leftists/secular humanists.
 
Thom18 said:
Also, another question: Why is your default response to say, “We’re just as bad” rather than make a defense for Islam by saying, “No, that’s not it, what it actually teaches is…”?
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My point: you have 0 right to criticize the parts of a Religion that the majority don’t follow to the letter.
 
SuperLuigi said:
So then do you like Islam?
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I don’t like Islam. Anymore than I like any other religion. It has its problems. But so does every religion in context. I’ll stand up for it, in the areas that are misunderstood. I do this frequently with Catholicism too. I remember one conversation an intense evangelical friend had, where he was trying to tell me how the communion of saints was bogus. His reasoning was “Catholics just choose people to be saints, and it doesn’t even make sense. Like, the saint of traveling is Christopher Columbus. What? What does he even have to do with religion.” I pointed out his mistake, and tried to explain a bit more about what I understood about the communion of saints.

Likewise, when I hear people misunderstanding Islam, I point that out too.
 
TeenCatholicGuy said:
My point: you have 0 right to criticize the parts of a Religion that the majority don’t follow to the letter.
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I have every right to criticize whatever I desire. Whether or not you agree with my criticism is another thing completely. Besides, that didn’t answer either of my questions.
 
Thom18 said:
I have every right to criticize whatever I desire. Whether or not you agree with my criticism is another thing completely.
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Read. The. Bible. Learn Jess’s true message.

Attacking other humans is not remotely Catholic, much less Christian.
 
TeenCatholicGuy said:
Read. The. Bible. Learn Jess’s true message.

Attacking other humans is not remotely Catholic, much less Christian.
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I never attacked anyone. I didn’t even comment on how I felt about Islam. All I asked was why you felt you had to put Christianity down rather than defend Islam, and what Jesus thought about stoning?
 
Thom18 said:
I never attacked anyone. I didn’t even comment on how I felt about Islam. All I asked was why you felt you had to put Christianity down rather than defend Islam, and what Jesus thought about stoning?
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Wasn’t referring to you in particular, just a general thought.

All religions have flaws, refusing to admit those flaws is dangerous.

Especially since there are some here who would do just that, and attack Islam.
 
TeenCatholicGuy said:
Not when you are Catholic.
biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/bible-verses-on-judging/

The Bible is 100% against that.
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You literally just said that it’s dangerous not to point out flaws. Or I guess your word was “admit”. Do flaws have to be admitted? If someone from inside a group I’m not a part of admits that part of their beliefs are flawed, can I not agree with them?

I don’t think you know what Jesus meant when he said, “Judge not”.
 
Thom18 said:
Also, another question: Why is your default response to say, “We’re just as bad” rather than make a defense for Islam by saying, “No, that’s not it, what it actually teaches is…”?
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i’d like to know this also.

there was some recent news about a billboard with specific facts on it. many came out against the billboard but not one article of the many i read explained what was false on the billboard.

if you know the billboard that i speak of please tell me which statements are false, why and what source do you use to prove it false.

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Thom18 said:
You literally just said that it’s dangerous not to point out flaws. Or I guess your word was “admit”. Do flaws have to be admitted? If someone from inside a group I’m not a part of admits that part of their beliefs are flawed, can I not agree with them?

I don’t think you know what Jesus meant when he said, “Judge not”.
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Last time I’m retyping this.

You, a Catholic are commanded by the Bible to “judge not”.

Christianity has it’s radicals too.

Islam and Christianity are actually similar.
 
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