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So that is a no then? You can’t or won’t explain it?
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I dare you to click the link to see how wrong you are.
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lolwut? It’s been released. It’s 6 pages long - the first 3 pages are from the White House Counsel. The next 3 are from Nunes. It was linked for you to read before you even posted.
Amazing.
Amazing.
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That statement really makes me laugh!Stephen_C:
Only because Republicans put party over country.
Republicans put Americans first!
Democrats put party over country as we are witnessing in today’s news and have been witnessing over the last year with the Clinton campaign and the DNC.
This memo is showing how far the democrats will go.
Many prefer to be in denial.
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7_Sorrows
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I prefer not to resort to getting any news from the WaPo.
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Luke6_37
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I advocate investigating people who seek to influence American politics for the benefit of foreign adversaries. For example, removing an anti-Russian plank in the GOP platform. The quid pro quo started even before Trump was elected.Luke6_37:
What connections? The one Steele made up?
What knowledge do you have of FISA courts? They are star chambers. We have no reason to believe they are run fairly and all sorts of reason to imagine they are not. The number one reason being the entire history of secret courts.
To be clear, you advocate investigations of people because of political opinions they have?
Republicans in Congress really cared to fix the FISA process, they could do that without making classified information public. The GOP controls both branches of government. They have all the power they need to address any abuses that come to light.
To be clear - your last statement would make Cathy Newman proud!
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Luke6_37
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It shows. The link wasn’t a news story. Just the memo.
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Luke6_37
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I didn’t realize Vladimir Putin was now America. That clears up a lot. Greetings comrade.Luke6_37:
That statement really makes me laugh!Stephen_C:
Only because Republicans put party over country.
Republicans put Americans first!
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somebody is going to have to explain how the release of this memo was a national security risk. the only risk i see the damage done to the Democrats, which is why they were running around trying to stop its release by spewing forth their bull crap excuses.
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Oh my, you see nothing wrong with want went on here?
Steele lied and gave false info in the dossier to help get a Fisa warrant to spy on an American citizen. You really have no problem with this?
The Dems will use any means possible to push their agenda.
I am so grateful that Hillary Clinton did not get elected. None of this information would have become public. All of the swindling she did with the help of the DNC, DOJ & FBI would be swept away and evil would now reign in the White house.
You know what, I’m not a fan of Trump. Never have been. Even with all his nastiness and brash talk. He is by and far the best thing that could of happened to the US in Decades.
Please Do a bit of soul searching and try to understand what was at stake here.
Steele lied and gave false info in the dossier to help get a Fisa warrant to spy on an American citizen. You really have no problem with this?
The Dems will use any means possible to push their agenda.
I am so grateful that Hillary Clinton did not get elected. None of this information would have become public. All of the swindling she did with the help of the DNC, DOJ & FBI would be swept away and evil would now reign in the White house.
You know what, I’m not a fan of Trump. Never have been. Even with all his nastiness and brash talk. He is by and far the best thing that could of happened to the US in Decades.
Please Do a bit of soul searching and try to understand what was at stake here.
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exnihilo
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So yes. You do want to investigate people for their political opinions.
Again, there is no evidence of quid pro quo. And what makes Russia the US’s adversary?
Absolutely. The GOP wants a shadow government as much as the Democrats do.
This isn’t a partisan issue. This is an issue of not having free elections because the state’s spy agencies investigate political opponents. I’m no fan of democracy but if that is our system it shouldn’t be corrupt.
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Luke6_37
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What makes you think Christopher Wray - a Trump appointee. Is a Democrat?
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To be clear, you advocate investigations of people because of political opinions they have?
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I advocate investigating people who seek to influence American politics for the benefit of foreign adversaries. For example, removing an anti-Russian plank in the GOP platform. The quid pro quo started even before Trump was elected.
Republicans in Congress really cared to fix the FISA process, they could do that without making classified information public. The GOP controls both branches of government. They have all the power they need to address any abuses that come to light.
To be clear - your last statement would make Cathy Newman proud!
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So with out any evidence what so ever you can assign blame about russian collusion but when something about your side is staring you in the face you ignore it. I’m sorry but your cred is shot and anything you have to say about this whole affair is tainted.
Shameful!
To be clear, you advocate investigations of people because of political opinions they have?
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I advocate investigating people who seek to influence American politics for the benefit of foreign adversaries. For example, removing an anti-Russian plank in the GOP platform. The quid pro quo started even before Trump was elected.
Republicans in Congress really cared to fix the FISA process, they could do that without making classified information public. The GOP controls both branches of government. They have all the power they need to address any abuses that come to light.
To be clear - your last statement would make Cathy Newman proud!
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So with out any evidence what so ever you can assign blame about russian collusion but when something about your side is staring you in the face you ignore it. I’m sorry but your cred is shot and anything you have to say about this whole affair is tainted.
Shameful!
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exnihilo
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It exposes the deep state shadow government. It exposes how FISA courts are a gross injustice. It exposes how anyone, even a billionaire running for president can be spied on. The only national security risk is that Americans will finally be fed up with the state.
The real surprise is the Republicans releasing it. I don’t think Ryan was all that eager.
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Exactly, what national security concern is there in this. The Dems are running scared and so they should be. This is not good. The Dem diehards?Trump haters will continue to deny (see Luke above) but anyone with a discerning eye can see how shameful this is.
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i guess you missed Pelosi on CNN. Not even Cuomo was swallowing her bull
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Luke6_37
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Well Cathy - That’s not what I said. Political opinions and undermining US interests to benefit a foreign adversary are not the same thing. There is “evidence” because the investigation is not yet complete. That’s the whole motivation behind this obstruction of justice effort by Congressional GOPs & the Trump White House.Luke6_37:
So yes. You do want to investigate people for their political opinions.
Again, there is no evidence of quid pro quo. And what makes Russia the US’s adversary?
Absolutely. The GOP wants a shadow government as much as the Democrats do.
This isn’t a partisan issue. This is an issue of not having free elections because the state’s spy agencies investigate political opponents. I’m no fan of democracy but if that is our system it shouldn’t be corrupt.
So you are not a fan of democracy. Well, that alone says it all. It’s good to know where you’re coming from.
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There is “evidence” because the investigation is not yet complete.**
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You have no Idea that there is no evidence! YOu hope and pray there is evidence but you don’t know for the exact reason the the investigation isn’t over. I think the investigation is just another hail mary by the DNC to get the public second guessing the president. With you it is obviously working with most Americans especially the ones sitting on the fence are starting to see right through this nonsense!
There is “evidence” because the investigation is not yet complete.**
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You have no Idea that there is no evidence! YOu hope and pray there is evidence but you don’t know for the exact reason the the investigation isn’t over. I think the investigation is just another hail mary by the DNC to get the public second guessing the president. With you it is obviously working with most Americans especially the ones sitting on the fence are starting to see right through this nonsense!
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exnihilo
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Sorry, you define ‘undermining US interests’ as expressing a particular political opinion. There is no law against ‘undermining the US interests’. Again, why is Russia an adversary? We aren’t at war with them.
So you investigate people to see if there is any evidence of a crime? That isn’t how the law works in the US. Well, obviously it is, but it shouldn’t be and this is a dark chapter. You first need some evidence of a crime to get a search warrant. If not then Hillary should have been investigated too to see if we can find evidence of crimes we don’t yet know about.
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Christopher Wray was appointed by Trump. He’s not a Democrat & he didn’t want the memo released.Luke6_37:
i guess you missed Pelosi on CNN. Not even Cuomo was swallowing her bull
Nancy Pelosi: GOP Is Lying To The American People | Video | RealClearPolitics
You really couldn’t tell that Couomo is playing devil’s advocate? Wow. That explains a lot.
What you need to understand about this situation is that never before has the House Intelligence Committee been used for such blatant partisan purposes. The norm in the past was always for members of that committee to put aside partisan politics and focus on national security. The Ryan, Nunes and the GOP committee members have turned it into a Republican tool to obstruct justice in the Russia investigation.
Releasing the memo is a blatent political move that undermines cooperation between the Justice Department and Congress - and that is a really bad for the nation.
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