Why the surveillance memo matters

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To initiate the 2nd application after the first one is expiring the applicant needs to show evidence collected by the 1st warrant was applicable, OR that information used to acquire the 1st one has been authenticated in the amount of time between the applications.
 
To initiate the 2nd application after the first one is expiring the applicant needs to show evidence collected by the 1st warrant was applicable, OR that information used to acquire the 1st one has been authenticated in the amount of time between the applications.
Yep. And apparently they did. Over and over.
 
Neither of the qualifications were met. The 2nd and 3rd applications were photocopies of the first and based on the same unverifiable dossier and unsubstantiated allegations.
 
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Well, one good thing about all the redactions is that we get to fill it in any way we want to. For ex: We “know” that the request was made by Strzok, even though the name is blacked out. We know that it’s based on information provided to Hillary Clinton. And so on…
 
No you don’t get to make things up. The court saw the brief and ruled to allow the surveillance.
You are free to second guess, but you are doing so without all of the information that they had.
 
Not making anything up certain redactions are easy to fill in with what we know now. In short, the DNC used contacts inside the NSA to listen to Trumps phone calls in 2015 and read his mail until that was cut off in 2016. The FBI then went nuts with weak FISA warrants to collect the same information by way of spillover from their two targets until even that became exposed. All this, of course, under Obama’s watch.
 
Clapper said –

If it weren’t for President Obama we might not have done the intelligence community assessment that we did that set up a whole sequence of events which are still unfolding today including Special Counsel Mueller’s investigation. President Obama is responsible for that. It was he who tasked us to do that intelligence community assessment in the first place.
This is Fake news, right? Or this is supposed to be a good thing, right??
I’m flabbergasted!!!
 
This is Fake news, right? Or this is supposed to be a good thing, right??
I’m flabbergasted!!!
Hillary was SUPPOSED to win.

She didn’t … and there is HECK to pay.

The FBI and CIA have been trying to reverse the election.
 
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It is absolutely unbelievable that this fat head would come out with this now. I will throw it into the hold for history’s fumblers and bumblers. The American people are going to demand the gavel be heard all over the country soon!
 
The FBI continued to tell judges that dossier writer Christopher Steele wasn’t the source of a news article the bureau used to corroborate a wiretap application when in fact Mr. Steele had publicly acknowledged that he fed the anti-Trump story.

This chronology is contained in four heavily censored Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act applications obtained by the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch under the Freedom of Information Act.

The documents also show that the FBI relied as evidence on mainstream media stories that were critical of the Donald Trump presidential campaign.

The FBI submitted the warrants for surveillance on Trump campaign volunteer Carter Page from October 2016 to September 2017. The FBI told surveillance court judges that Mr. Page was an illegal foreign agent of Russia. Mr. Page has repeatedly denied this and has not been charged. . . . .

. . . The FBI’s central piece of evidence in the unredacted parts is the dossier compiled by Mr. Steele, a former British spy hired by Fusion GPS with money from the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. In other words, the FBI was relying on partisan opposition research to target Mr. Page for a year of intrusive phone and electronic intercepts. . . .

. . . “The FBI’s use of politically charged media reports to surveil political opposition is tyrannical,” said J.D. Gordon, a former Pentagon spokesman and senior campaign adviser. “It’s fundamentally un-American, and those responsible must be brought to justice.” . .

. . . In 2013, a Russian spy posing as a United Nations diplomat made contact with Mr. Page in New York. It is standard operating procedure for Russian intelligence to try to recruit American business contacts.

The FBI later informed Mr. Page that the Russian was an agent. He said he cooperated in the investigation and was never charged.

He has testified under oath that he never met the Russians named by Mr. Steele and repeated the claim on Sunday’s political talk shows.

Mr. Steele’s dossier also accused Mr. Page of coordinating Russian election inference, which included hacking Democratic Party computers, with campaign manager Paul Manafort. . . .
 
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Why is CP still walking around??? Is he or is he not guilty of something??? Hasn’t he been under surveillance (via Fisa Warrant or something?) since 2013 or 14???
 
Clapper said –

If it weren’t for President Obama we might not have done the intelligence community assessment that we did that set up a whole sequence of events which are still unfolding today including Special Counsel Mueller’s investigation. President Obama is responsible for that. It was he who tasked us to do that intelligence community assessment in the first place.
And I’m going to try to remember that @dvdjs says this is a good thing…
 
Carter Page was the target of the surveillance, not the campaign. Page was no longer with the campaign when the FISA warrant was issued. With that inconvenient truth, the rest of the story crumbles. Worse, this source is repeating the tired claim that Yahoo was a source of information connecting Page to Russia, when the warrant makes it clear that that was not the case at all: the Yahoos story was mentioned in a section on Page’s denials . Finally, given the redactions, it is nonsensical to say that one thing or another are the only sources of information.
The Trump campaign was always the target. The FBI tried five months earlier back in June to get a FISA warrant to secretly wiretap four members of the Trump campaign, but were initially denied.

Also, right at that time, Christopher Steele began assembling the phony anti-Trump dossier, and said to Bruce Ohr how he “was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president.

The dossier helped them get the warrant in October, and the Yahoo article was used in part to corroborate it.

But whatever, believe what you want. I would only recommend reading the timeline of events that took place since Trump locked up the Republican nomination in May 2016. You might see things in a different light.
 
Caldera . . .
The Trump campaign was always the target. The FBI tried five months earlier back in June to get a FISA warrant to secretly wiretap four members of the Trump campaign, but were initially denied.
Great points worth repeating (so I repeated your quote).
 
The Trump campaign was always the target.
I think that this conclusion is not correct on the actual evidence that we have before us…
But there were strong evidence that it were, it would be interesting to see why federal LEO has suspicions that went beyond the shady characters around trump to Trump himself.
 
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