Why women cant be Catholic Priests

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Sy_Noe said:
Yet you are telling such people to go be whatever. Oh surely, they can go attend services wherever or choose not to attend anywhere at all. And many do both. And many even join others per a particular faith community’s membership process and as such identify as members wherever else. But according to Catholic teaching, they can’t truly go be whatever. Even those who had no say in becoming Catholic and who may not have determined they do not share the faith until they became much older.
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I guess I didn’t express myself well; I’m prone to that failing. If you’re a practicing Catholic and think that the Church is wrong because they won’t ordain women to the priesthood, then you are disobeying the Church anyway. So you either need to reconcile yourself to Church teaching and repent (and confess your sin of pride in thinking you know better than Jesus did) and sin no more in publicly advocating that heresy, or you need to excommunicate yourself and become a member of another church that does.
 
Peace needs reason to flourish. It doesn’t exist in an irrational vacuum.
The denial of self evident human traits never leads to peace. History should readily prove what happens when humanity is denied.
The denial of the differences between men and women are of the same irrational stripe as racism and homophobia and genocide.

They might seem cozy and tolerant, but deception is deception.
 
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Yes I agree adding “practicing” helped. Except even the excommunicated are considered Catholic. They simply are not supposed to receive the sacraments or hold roles in the parish until reconciled.
 
Sy_Noe said:
It might be silly to some. But the Galatians verse is one that is used by those who promote female clergy. Everyone has their beliefs and interpretations though. That’s why there are different faith communities. And what might be silly to one, may not be to another. Peace to all who walk on this earth in faith or for that matter who just walk.
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Catholicism is not utilitarian. A religious vocation is not about what a person has the potency to accomplish, or about how useful a person can be. A vocation is a calling from God, and God calls people as they are. So it is somewhat different than being a doctor or construction worker.

God is not an idea, God Is. He self identifies as I Am. Christ is God’s fullest revelation. Christ comes into the world as a first century Jewish man. God could have done anything. He could have just given us God’s teaching and been done. We could have had “The Great Idea” instead of Christ. But God spoke to us through Christ, who is body blood soul and divinity.

Since we are made in the image of God, your being (or who you are) is primary to your doing.
 
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Gorgias said:
Right. 'Cause Jesus never interacted with women. 'Cause Jesus never allowed women to give (name removed by moderator)ut and never listened to the things they said, and sometimes changed his actions based on them or let them do things that weren’t ‘politically correct’. (You’ve really got to read the Gospels more closely…) :roll_eyes:
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My point is the opposite. It is man made because that is what the men (not Jesus) decided it would be. I believe Jesus probably isn’t a happy camper over how things are with regard to this. PS… I am well versed in the gospels already.
 
Gorgias said:
psst… mainline Protestant denominations allow female ministers. You realize, don’t you, that they have a vocations crisis too, right? So, “allowing female ministers” doesn’t solve the problem that you suppose it’ll solve. 😉
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My point is that when an organization automatically eliminates half of the population, they have no room to complain when there is a shortage.
 
QwertyGirl said:
Yes, but not at the expense of the well being of others.
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There’s no, “Yes, but…” Jesus broke social conventions, and He wasn’t afraid to do so. There is no reason to suggest that Jesus was “just waiting for society to advance” in order to let women be ordained. Nothing in Scripture or tradition support your views.
 
“Sorry for my rant. But not really sorry. I think it is important for Catholics to understand why most find this rule so objectionable.”

I’m sorry. I don’t understand. Why would an agnostic find this objectionable when you don’t believe in the Catholic Church or aren’t sure of it’s theology. Disagree? I’m game. Not understand? No problem. Find objectionable??? Not so much. I’m sorry if it’s keeping you out of the Church. I’d look into it more. But if you aren’t even looking into the Church why let it bother you? The Church has male and female roles and I’ve heard everything from ‘The Church is sexist!’ to ‘The Church is too feminized!’, but male and female roles per se aren’t bad.

To me it’s like saying that ‘I find the fact that the leader of my local woman’s business association must be a woman offensive!’. It’s not my group, so I’m not bothered.
 
QwertyGirl said:
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Gorgias:
psst… mainline Protestant denominations allow female ministers. You realize, don’t you, that they have a vocations crisis too, right? So, “allowing female ministers” doesn’t solve the problem that you suppose it’ll solve. 😉
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My point is that when an organization automatically eliminates half of the population, they have no room to complain when there is a shortage.
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To avoid the demographic winter that folks are worried about, it is only right that men be allowed to have children.
 
Jimbo said:
I’m sorry. I don’t understand. Why would an agnostic find this objectionable when you don’t believe in the Catholic Church or aren’t sure of it’s theology. Disagree? I’m game. Not understand? No problem. Find objectionable??? Not so much. I’m sorry if it’s keeping you out of the Church. I’d look into it more. But if you aren’t even looking into the Church why let it bother you? The Church has male and female roles and I’ve heard everything from ‘The Church is sexist!’ to ‘The Church is too feminized!’, but male and female roles per se aren’t bad.
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I have seen this issue cause a lot of pain to people I love. So that is why I care about it.
 
It’s threads like this that display to non-Catholics just how ridiculous people can be.
It’s a rule. period end of story, no oppression, no mean-spiritedness, no judgment.
I don’t know one woman who wants to be a priest.
Women already do so much in parishes.
The only people complaining are the people on CAF. :roll_eyes:
This never comes up in parishes discussions.
 
Self inflicted pain. If someone can accept that their physician is one gender or another they can accept priests are they are.
What’s that song? “You can’t always get what you want…but you get what you need”.
 
goout said:
I was expecting you to try and refute the proposition with reason.
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You miscalculated. If you can find a way for men to grow the necessary body parts to carry and birth a baby, I wouldn’t stand in their way. I wouldn’t have a problem with it. I know a lot of men who are more suited to that role, actually, than the woman they are attached to.
 
QwertyGirl said:
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goout:
I was expecting you to try and refute the proposition with reason.
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You miscalculated. If you can find a way for men to grow the necessary body parts to carry and birth a baby, I wouldn’t stand in their way. I wouldn’t have a problem with it. I know a lot of men who are more suited to that role, actually, than the woman they are attached to.
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Why do you deny men the right to have children just because they are men?
 
It seems the OP has successfully started another thread on CAF where people fight over popular opinion vs church disciplines, teachings, etc. Oh joy.
Bye.
 
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