Why Would A Catholic Vote For A ProChoice Canidate?

[vern_humphrey]

I have no idea why a Catholic who professes to follow the teachings of the Church would vote for pro choice. Or for that matter for euthanasia, gay marriage, stem cell research or cloning. To me those politicians who claim to be Catholic and do this are a disgrace.
Deacon Ed B

It’s not logical – but then those who do it don’t use logic. They themselves tell us how they “HATE Republicans” and “vomit” if they vote for one.

And of course, they don’t work to purge the party of their choice of abortion supporters.

 

[Pong]

We do it so the rest of you good people can feel self-righteous about your decisions.

 

[rlg94086]

We do it so the rest of you good people can feel self-righteous about your decisions.

You do realize, of course, that your statement is self-righteous. Ironic, eh?

 

[Dale_M]

And note this:

Look, I am saying that I HATE the Republican Party so much I could understand why people would vote against it despite their pro-life stance.

He admits he’s driven by hatred, not by logic.

You know the difference between a psychotic and neurotic?

A psychotic thinks two and two is five.

A neurotic knows two and two is four – and he HATES it

Vern, I have a lot of respect for you, but that was a fairly uncharitable post.

Rlg94086 did a fine job dismissing the 527 argument.

 

[ribozyme]

He admits he’s driven by hatred, not by logic.

You know the difference between a psychotic and neurotic?

A psychotic thinks two and two is five.

A neurotic knows two and two is four – and he HATES it

Vern, I have a lot of respect for you, but that was a fairly uncharitable post.

Rlg94086 did a fine job dismissing the 527 argument.

1. that he believes that CAF = the posters. The first is absolutely untrue. The second is a self-defeating argument, because clearly not all posters are Republican or support voting for Republicans

It meant to say that it was like a 527 since most posters here encourage others to vote Republican.

 

[dmelosi]

Vern, I have a lot of respect for you, but that was a fairly uncharitable post.

Rlg94086 did a fine job dismissing the 527 argument.

It meant to say that it was like a 527 since most posters here encourage others to vote Republican.

The reason is that the democratic platform is pro abortion and promotes it

and the republican platform is against abortion.

That reason alone…

If the platforms were switched, you would see just the opposite.

 

[Jeff_KC]

How can a Catholic Vote For a ProWar Candidate?

 

[dmelosi]

How can a Catholic Vote For a ProWar Candidate?

Don’t know of any Catholics that do.

 

[Jeff_KC]

Don’t know of any Catholics that do.

Interesting. Viewing this thread, I can’t help but notice this issue seeming to be ignored by some and downplayed by others.

 

[dmelosi]

Interesting. Viewing this thread, I can’t help but notice this issue seeming to be ignored by some and downplayed by others.

The thread is about why would a Catholic vote for a prochoice candidate.

Instead of trying to derail the thread start one with that title.

 

[Jeff_KC]

The thread is about why would a Catholic vote for a prochoice candidate.

Instead of trying to derail the thread start one with that title.

Because I feel it pertinent to this topic. To advocate the support of a candidate based on their prolife position because it reflects a respect for the sanctity of life, while at the same time leaving the issue of that candidate’s position on war out of the equation seems both illogical and hypocritical.

These are complex issues. Simply telling someone to go away will not make them any less complex.

 

[rlg94086]

Because I feel it pertinent to this topic. To advocate the support of a candidate based on their prolife position because it reflects a respect for the sanctity of life, while at the same time leaving the issue of that candidate’s position on war out of the equation seems both illogical and hypocritical.

These are complex issues. Simply telling someone to go away will not make them any less complex.

It’s not that complex.

Catholics are allowed to have differing opinions about the decision to go to war, and war is sometimes justifiable. Abortion, on the other hand, is an evil that is never justifiable. Nice try though…

EDIT ADD: BTW…dmelosi didn’t tell you to go away - he said to start a thread. That is an easy thing to do. Go to the top and click on “New Thread.” I’m sure people would love to discuss this with you.

 

[dmelosi]

How can a Catholic Vote For a ProWar Candidate?

This is your original statement and the way you stated it, is not complex at all.

Because I feel it pertinent to this topic. To advocate the support of a candidate based on their prolife position because it reflects a respect for the sanctity of life, while at the same time leaving the issue of that candidate’s position on war out of the equation seems both illogical and hypocritical.

These are complex issues. Simply telling someone to go away will not make them any less complex.

I did not tell you to go away, I said to start a new thread.

 

[Jeff_KC]

It’s not that complex.

Catholics are allowed to have differing opinions about the decision to go to war, and war is sometimes justifiable. Abortion, on the other hand, is an evil that is never justifiable. Nice try though…

EDIT ADD: BTW…dmelosi didn’t tell you to go away - he said to start a thread. That is an easy thing to do. Go to the top and click on “New Thread.” I’m sure people would love to discuss this with you.

What is being discussed is candidates and their position on the sanctity of life. The US is currently involved in a war which has resulted in tens of thousands of innocent people being killed. Are you saying that a candidate’s position on this issue should not be included in a discussion of voting choices and the sanctity of life?

There has been a lot of discussion in this thread which seems to imply that it is very simple: Supporting a candidate that is not staunchly in opposition to abortion is lack of support for the Catholic faith. I’m simply saying that the sanctity of life is a complex issue. Certainly abortion is a major tenet in that discussion, but just as certainly, not the sole one. Further, while a prochoice stance may condone murder, war commits murder. It commits murder with money that has come out of my pocket and yours, and I certainly feel it pertinent to the topic at hand. However, I understand others’ uneasiness with the topic, it certainly does muddy the waters a bit.

 

[dmelosi]

What is being discussed is candidates and their position on the sanctity of life. The US is currently involved in a war which has resulted in tens of thousands of innocent people being killed. Are you saying that a candidate’s position on this issue should not be included in a discussion of voting choices and the sanctity of life?

There has been a lot of discussion in this thread which seems to imply that it is very simple: Supporting a candidate that is not staunchly in opposition to abortion is lack of support for the Catholic faith. I’m simply saying that the sanctity of life is a complex issue. Certainly abortion is a major tenet in that discussion, but just as certainly, not the sole one. Further, while a prochoice stance may condone murder, war commits murder. It commits murder with money that has come out of my pocket and yours, and I certainly feel it pertinent to the topic at hand. However, I understand others’ uneasiness with the topic, it certainly does muddy the waters a bit.

You insist on high jacking the thread, I will start one on the war.

 

[dmelosi]

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=3328194#post3328194

The thread for the war discussion.

 

[Jeff_KC]

You insist on high jacking the thread, I will start one on the war.

I insist on no such thing. I’ve simply brought up an aspect of the topic that nobody seems willing to deal with. So be it.

 

[dmelosi]

I insist on no such thing. I’ve simply brought up an aspect of the topic that nobody seems willing to deal with. So be it.

I started a thread, there will be many that will deal with it. It has been dealt with in this thread a few posts back, yet you ignore that?

 

[LCMS_No_More]

Ribozyme’s statement was that CAF is a 527, telling people to vote Republican due to pro-life issues. There are two ways to look at that - 1) he is claiming that Catholic Answers is a shill for the Republican party or 2) that he believes that CAF = the posters. The first is absolutely untrue. The second is a self-defeating argument, because clearly not all posters are Republican or support voting for Republicans.

Must be tough, eh?

Actually, considering how the so-called “5 non-negotiables” are tailored to gain Republicans votes, it does make one wonder.

The fact that some posters, self-included, are pro-life Republicans who encourage voting for pro-life Republicans, is not a reflection on Catholic Answers or CAF.

Actually, it seems to be a majority of posters who post in this and the secular news section. Of course, this wouldn’t speak to the ownership. but considering the so-called “5 non-negotiables” are tailored to garner Republican votes, like I said…it does make one wonder.

 

[Deacon_Ed_B]

The 5 non negotiables have nothing to do with Republican or Democrat, they have everything to do with morality and respect for life.
Deacon Ed B