Why Would A Catholic Vote For A ProChoice Canidate?

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estesbob said:
The better option would be not to vote. No one is saying you should vote for someone just becuase they oppose abortion. but those who support abortion are not fit to lead in any circumstances.
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Nobody who casts no vote has any place disagreeing with politics. I would sooner have to choose between two terrible candidates than not vote at all.

It isnt just our right to vote, it is our responsibility as the founders and controllers of the government, it is our responsibility to elect representatives
 
ribozyme said:
Well, we liberals do support*** choice***.
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This thread isn’t about secular liberals voting for ProChoice candidates. It is about Catholics voting for ProChoice candidates.

However, since you want to play…I disagree that liberals support choice. They are opposed to choice when it comes to publically funded education. They are opposed to choice when it comes to allowing people to have more control over their Social Security funds. The only choice they really support in a die-hard fashion is the choice of a woman to kill her unborn child. How anyone can be proud of allowing such a choice is beyond me.
 
rlg94086 said:
This thread isn’t about secular liberals voting for ProChoice candidates. It is about Catholics voting for ProChoice candidates.

However, since you want to play…I disagree that liberals support choice. They are opposed to choice when it comes to publically funded education. They are opposed to choice when it comes to allowing people to have more control over their Social Security funds. The only choice they really support in a die-hard fashion is the choice of a woman to kill her unborn child. How anyone can be proud of allowing such a choice is beyond me.
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But the person being born doesn’t have a choice of whether they inherit a trust fund or whether they are born in poverty. They do not have a choice whether they will have Down syndrome or not.
 
SenorSalsa said:
Nobody who casts no vote has any place disagreeing with politics. I would sooner have to choose between two terrible candidates than not vote at all.

It isnt just our right to vote, it is our responsibility as the founders and controllers of the government, it is our responsibility to elect representatives
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Then write in someone-i will NEVER vote for one who supports killingh our children
 
ribozyme said:
But the person being born doesn’t have a choice of whether they inherit a trust fund or whether they are born in poverty. They do not have a choice whether they will have Down syndrome or not.
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And the point is?
 
ribozyme said:
But the person being born doesn’t have a choice of whether they inherit a trust fund or whether they are born in poverty. They do not have a choice whether they will have Down syndrome or not.
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Yeah…and your point is what? Since they don’t have those choices, someone else should choose whether or not to kill them? Strange logic.
 
estesbob said:
Then write in someone-i will NEVER vote for one who supports killingh our children
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Well im glad to hear I am not the only one who would still vote for someone even if he only got 1 vote. Too many here sound like they will only vote for a canidate that “has a chance to win”. Hate to break it to you, but its becuase of you and others with the same mindset that they are the only two with “a chance to win”. Anyone can win, its a fair election
 
One of my favorite Presidents was born into poverty, Abraham Lincoln. We would have lost a great President if his parents chose to murder him because they were poor. Try telling a person with down syndrome that his parents should have murdered him.
 
I think it’s feasible for a Catholic to vote for a pro-choice candidate if there were no pro-life candidate, and they voted for the least pro-choice.

Myself, I would write in a pro-life candidate anyway. I don’t support people who support murder.
 
ribozyme said:
But the person being born doesn’t have a choice of whether they inherit a trust fund or whether they are born in poverty. They do not have a choice whether they will have Down syndrome or not.
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😦 So you abort them in the womb?
 
rlg94086 said:
Boring. There are plenty of opinions out there, and, at least for the presidency, the Republican Party does have a good chance of winning…according to the current polls.

Considering what a lousy job the Democrats are doing running Congress, it is hard to tell what will happen there.
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But it is not the Democrats fault for their “lousy job.” The progressives and liberals do not have enough political power yet.

From that bastion of social justice:
With a flurry of legislative activity as the first session wound down, the 110th Congress passed a delayed package of appropriations bills for the fiscal year that began on October 1, a one-year fix in the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) that prevented its impact on millions of middle-class households, and the first increase in automobile fuel efficiency standards in decades. In each case, however,** Democrats were unable to advance some of their key priorities, as they faced Senate filibusters and presidential vetoes. **
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How well did Congress perform under its new Democratic leadership in 2007, the first session of the 110th Congress? Most observers came to a quick and decidedly negative conclusion, one based in large part on the abysmally low ratings of the new Congress in public opinion polls. … To be sure, these ratings reflected, to some degree, a broader public discontent with the direction of the country, the war in Iraq, the state of the economy, and the performance of government more generally. But the decline in approval of Congress during 2007 was also driven by the frustration of Democrats at the inability of Congress to force a change in policy on the Iraq war and the wider public unhappiness with the pitched partisan battles and policy standoffs that characterized much of the year in Washington.
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brookings.edu/papers/2008/01_uscongress_mann.aspx

I also think the Democrats are afraid of withdrawing from Iraq and the Brookings fellows do not want factious violence there. But if a Democrat is elected, he/she would not appoint pro-life judges. But most people aren’t concerned with abortion and most people assent to abortion although they do not do so fervently. But I wonder if people who are concerned with their economic well-being, not abortion, would vote for a tax cut of about 300 dollars

I wonder what the liberal wonks (who would be in power when the Democrats win) would do about abortion. I suppose lower poverty means less abortion and liberal wonks are capable of accomplishing that. Maybe an indirect approach would be the best instead of coercively denying people the right to choose or putting restrictions on abortion.
 
ribozyme said:
But it is not the Democrats fault for their “lousy job.” The progressives and liberals do not have enough political power yet.
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When they have total power – the power of life and death – over all of us, then we’ll have paradise on earth, eh?😛
 
Vern said-
When they have total power – the power of life and death – over all of us, then we’ll have paradise on earth, eh?
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And I’m askin-

So where are you and I gonna go when THAT happens bro?
 
vern_humphrey said:
When they have total power – the power of life and death – over all of us, then we’ll have paradise on earth, eh?😛
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Yup-just like the Soviet Union There is hope for ribeye-as the old saying goes:

Those who are not liberal when they are young have no heart
Those who remain liberal as they mature have no mind.

Things that make perfect sense in term papers often fall apart when faced with reality.
 
BamaRider said:
NO American President, party, agency is gonna allow that to happen, or have any part of it. Call me optimistic, but that is what I believe.
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Not only will I call you optimistic, but I will also say it seems like you may have lived a sheltered life. (which is not a bad thing). I personally know people who have been left to fend for themselves…children. My mother in law was one. She slipped through the “system’s” cracks. My nieces almost did too, if their Grandmother hadn’t stepped in.
 
Yeah but if ya live in the Ozarks, you can’t be far from that Evil Empire, obscene profit taker, and slave master of the working poor entity known as Wal-Mart!

I’ll tell ya what, if they turned Health Care over to Wal Mart we’d all be better off. It would be cheap, and plentiful. LOL.
 
estesbob said:
Yup-just like the Soviet Union There is hope for ribeye-as the old saying goes:

Those who are not liberal when they are young have no heart
Those who remain liberal as they mature have no mind.

Things that make perfect sense in term papers often fall apart when faced with reality.
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I am going to use this one. I just hope ribeye remembers this as he or she ages.
 
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