Why wouldn’t God show miracles to this generation?

[joseie]

The simple reason why there are no miracles performed now a days is that it will be caught red-handed !

 

[tweedlealice]

It’s your nature to be cynical, as Thomas & want proof. Faith is the thing hoped for. The evidence of things Not seen.
Everyday, we need Faith to go about our daily lives. If you catch a city bus that’s marked CITY HALL. You must have Faith that the bus driver changed his destination label. He may have made a mistake. It’s funny, how we move w Faith all the time & don’t consider how it works.
If you ask, Who,What, Where , How, concerning creation. WHO=(?) WHERE=Everywhere ad infinatum. HOW=THE BIG BANG. WHAT=CREATION. WHEN=Billions of years ago.
OK! If there is No Creator & we were NOTHING! How did items occur for the Big Bang to create? Where did radiation in space come from? Where did negative pressure come from or the Time continuum? Where did atomic particals come from?
If I get this correct accdg to Stephen Hawkins, There was a negativity like a vacuum effect pulling on atomic particles that were floating around in space. The vacuum increased negative pressure & caused the bang. In my dictionary, nothing is NO THING! NADA!
All energy has to have a source. Living things can create. Someone had to enact the radiation & vacuum pressures & atomic particles.
Call it what you will, but something was at the beginning. We call Him God. It’s easier to believe a Creator had to create, than to think NOTHING COULD CREATE.
Big Bang is fine but the Creator put out the needed pieces. From where, did God come? That is FAITH! God is a Spirit w/o form or shape & has tremendous powers. Proof! The Sun stays in orbit in a delicate balance w planets &
Stars. You should watch the. CASE FOR CHRIST! Take notes. It’s a documentary about an atheist who was upset b/c his wife became a Christian(a cult). He was a reporter & felt he’d prove Christianity was a cult over the weekend. Well, it took him over 2 yrs. He believed & became a preacher. Cute! HUH! He did all the work for you.
In the first 300yrs, the church was persecuted. They believed in the afterlife. They would never die. Just give up the body. When Jesus was alive, He was the miracle. His energy was vast. Touching a garment or believing in His miraculous powers had the miracles happen. His teachings were miraculous! LOVE YOUR ENEMIES! THE BEATITUDES. Sigh! What words.
It’s as easy to believe as it is to disbelieve. Our deaths are happier w going home. The ground is cold. If I’m wrong! No loss! If I’m right, I’m gloriously happy. Don’t settle in non belief…,Keep looking till you find God. The journey is fun.

 

[thistle]

The simple reason why there are no miracles performed now a days is that it will be caught red-handed !

What does that even mean??

 

[joseie]

I don’t question the miracles of Jesus and that of his disciples performed as per his authority immediately after his time but not in the so called miracles said to have happened subsequently or now whether related to christian faith or others. After all why people seek for a miracle /sign ? To believe in him ?Jesus already said(M16:4) that only wicked and adulterous generation seeks it.
This apart ,the time of miracles are clearly over with the advancement of science . How many cases are there where the so called miracles are proved as false or fraud or just happened by normal way and not by any unexplained phenomenon!Are there any miracle which was allowed to be subject to independent scientific investigation and established as a miracle of God.No ! In this scientific and information at -the tip-of -your finger age,no body can get away with any false information easily.It will be caught sooner or later.Luckly the instances of miracles have drastically come down for obvious reasons.

 

[Mike_from_NJ]

It’s your nature to be cynical, as Thomas & want proof.

The difference being Thomas allegedly got his proof.

Faith is the thing hoped for. The evidence of things Not seen.
Everyday, we need Faith to go about our daily lives. If you catch a city bus that’s marked CITY HALL. You must have Faith that the bus driver changed his destination label.

You’re trying to equate two different definitions of the word faith, and really most believers do this. The latter usage is faith based on previous evidence. I have faith that if I don’t leave for work by a certain time I’ll get caught waiting at a school bus stop for several minutes. I know this to be true because it’s happened enough where I can count it. The first usage of faith is one devoid of evidence. Trying to conflate the two doesn’t put the likelihood of God like that of my commute.

He may have made a mistake. It’s funny, how we move w Faith all the time & don’t consider how it works.

But we do know how the second usage works. It’s based on things like history and probability. Faith in your god or any others doesn’t have the same evidentiary footing.

If you ask, Who,What, Where , How, concerning creation. WHO=(?) WHERE=Everywhere ad infinatum. HOW=THE BIG BANG. WHAT=CREATION. WHEN=Billions of years ago.
OK! If there is No Creator & we were NOTHING! How did items occur for the Big Bang to create? Where did radiation in space come from? Where did negative pressure come from or the Time continuum? Where did atomic particals come from?

It’s inaccurate to say that the universe sprang from nothing. It’s believed that prior to the Big Bang was a singularity, which can best be described as everything. Right now people are working to understand our universe and how it came to be in its current form.

You can’t just say “God did it” because of your incredulity. There is not a one-to-one correlation between things that are true and things that you understand.

If I get this correct accdg to Stephen Hawkins, There was a negativity like a vacuum effect pulling on atomic particles that were floating around in space. The vacuum increased negative pressure & caused the bang. In my dictionary, nothing is NO THING! NADA!

I don’t know if that’s a wholly accurate rendering of Stephen Hawking’s theories, but really there are various theories on the matter. It’s possible that they are all wrong and you are right, but to dismiss them out of hand just because they are difficult for laymen like you and me to wrap our heads around is not conducive to understanding. People dismissed relativity out of hand because it went against the clockwork nature of the universe that they were accustomed to, and here we are using it on our GPS every day.

 

[Mike_from_NJ]

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Call it what you will, but something was at the beginning. We call Him God. It’s easier to believe a Creator had to create, than to think NOTHING COULD CREATE.
Big Bang is fine but the Creator put out the needed pieces. From where, did God come? That is FAITH!

That’s not faith, that’s special pleading – the idea that one’s theories are exempt from the scrutiny all other similar ideas must face. Carl Sagan once famously said that if we say if God always existed then why not save a step and say the universe always existed. And if we say that God is unanswerable, then save a step and say the universe is unanswerable.

God is a Spirit w/o form or shape & has tremendous powers.

You say that with absolute certainty. Scientists allow that what isn’t proven may not be correct.

Proof! The Sun stays in orbit in a delicate balance w planets & Stars.

That’s not proof of God. That’s just plain old gravity.

You should watch the. CASE FOR CHRIST! Take notes. It’s a documentary about an atheist who was upset b/c his wife became a Christian(a cult). He was a reporter & felt he’d prove Christianity was a cult over the weekend. Well, it took him over 2 yrs. He believed & became a preacher. Cute! HUH! He did all the work for you.

Lee Strobel? Eh. I don’t doubt his beliefs are sincere, but just because this one person investigated and gained faith doesn’t mean we should ignore the many who investigated and lost their faith. I always say reasonable people can see the same evidence and reach different conclusions, especially on such a nebulous concept like religion.

In the first 300yrs, the church was persecuted. They believed in the afterlife. They would never die. Just give up the body. When Jesus was alive, He was the miracle. His energy was vast. Touching a garment or believing in His miraculous powers had the miracles happen. His teachings were miraculous! LOVE YOUR ENEMIES! THE BEATITUDES. Sigh! What words.

We don’t go down the rabbit hole of what God said, because there are some words far nastier he’s said than love thy neighbor. And again, while I understand you believe these things to be true, you certainly can not provide evidence for God.

It’s as easy to believe as it is to disbelieve. Our deaths are happier w going home. The ground is cold. If I’m wrong! No loss! If I’m right, I’m gloriously happy. Don’t settle in non belief…,Keep looking till you find God. The journey is fun.

One does not choose to believe or disbelieve. They simply do, so let’s not drudge up Pascal’s Wager (Pretend to believe so God won’t send you to Hell. What words!)

By the way, none of your post addresses the topic at hand: Why wouldn’t God show miracles to this generation?

 

[Mboo]

One does not choose to believe or disbelieve. They simply do, so let’s not drudge up Pascal’s Wager (Pretend to believe so God won’t send you to Hell. What words!)

I do not think so. Faith is first and foremost an act of the will, even if its final act is that of intelligence. In other words, we believe at first because our will has decided to believe, and then our intelligence seeks to know and understand the choice of the will.

 

[Mike_from_NJ]

I do not think so. Faith is first and foremost an act of the will, even if its final act is that of intelligence. In other words, we believe at first because our will has decided to believe, and then our intelligence seeks to know and understand the choice of the will.

Okay, try to force yourself to believe in something. You won’t be able to. The same is true with religion.

 

[KevinK]

Your beliefs are not subject to your will.

 

[KevinK]

That’s correct. Your beliefs are not subject to your will. Try to will yourself to believing Muhammed is a prophet of God, or that Joseph Smith received golden tablets from God. You cannot “choose” to be convinced.

 

[Mboo]

Every meritorious human act is subject to the will, otherwise it is no longer a properly human act, but an animal act or a vegetative act. The act of faith is a human act so it is subject to the will.

 

[KevinK]

Then will yourself to believe Islam is the true religion.

 

[Mboo]

it is not excluded (may God spare me such a thing). We see many Catholics who chose to believe in the Islamic faith

 

[Mboo]

The reason for the Faith is because it is God who spoke, and God can neither deceive us nor deceive Himself, it is not because we would have had first of all some reasonable proof of what we must believe that we get faith. These proofs can come after the act of Faith.

 

[tweedlealice]

We tend to complicate things when they are simple. The air around us is filed w elements, not seen. I still feel an LIVE entity has to exist to create. A Universe doesn’t think or plan. It is part of the creation. God is present in the Universe & the Wonders of life.
I did say miracles happen. God & I communicated when I was Holier. He gave me scripture that said my marriage would be saved & he’d protect me. Did He! I was healed of a falling arch. I was involved with a minor Exorcism. I wasn’t all that powerful, if it was a complex entity.
I used my Spiritual authority over temper tantrums. That was funny. My son was 3 yo. Curious!
God has a sense of Humor! My husband had been unfaithful. He was into another situation. I was flying up to Mass. to go to an Aglow Spiritual Conference. His recent friend, with whom he dissolved their friendship, approached me. She told me that I shouldn’t fly to Mass. b/c he was taking up w #3. God told me,”LET THE DEAD BURY THE DEAD!” I was to go.
Sooo, I go. I get put in a room w another woman, who was a secretary in a church & had an affair w the Pastor. FUNNY! Listening to the other side! Split your side laughing, the Pastors wife was in the next room & they were friends!!! That is a healing. It is how it should be as far as healing. Love your enemy! Work to Salvation. When we let God Work, healing is evident. Hallelujah!
When I was speaking w #2, I wasn’t feeling very loving. I got this warmth pouring over my head like warm oil. W it came the love of God, for #2, that I didn’t have. A Holy Moment.
I was lost &He directed my path to my location, in the country. My son tried to commit suicide twice. The first time was a teen age acting out. The second time he was on life support. God was there. We are all sinners saved by Grace. This God, we serve, is a jealous God. We shall haveNO gods before Him. Like Science. It did not create. It discovers & understands things.
It defines things & how they work.
A pt was dying. She had this beautiful countenance on her face. She reported seeing her Aunt & a few other relatives & Jesus. Then, died.
God gave me the gift of Therapeutic touch. It’s massaging your halo. It takes pains away. Brain Cancer was healed, more than once.
Yes, there are healings today.
I’ve walked w Jesus, many years. He’s not just a concept but a living Creator who interacts w His children.
The Saints w apparitions! Delusions.???Hallucinations??? Visual & Auditory! The Stigmata is a miracle. Padre Pio- look him up. Look up 259 incorruptible Saints of the Catholic Church. Now, scientifically, some bodies were in arid dirt that protected the body. But, plenty others were not. Today, we’re slow to decompose b/c of preservatives in food! TEEHEE.
Anyway, God is! He loves us! He’s reaching out His hand,to you to pull you up, out of the world.
I do wish you operate in your spiritual realm & understand spiritual things. Staying in the flesh, w a “prove it” philosophy, makes you miss a lot.
God bless
Tweedlealice

 

[leonhardprintz]

The only honest answer is that we don’t know why God won’t perform grand miracles in front of anyone with a camera.

We can give various speculative answers, such as miracles of that type not being believed anyway, which would increase the culpability of those involved, and so people would be punished even harder in hell. But this sort of speculation is highly dubious to me.

Suffice it to say that God and the angels do their work away from iPhones.

 

[Mary888]

Maybe He is angry with us. Miracles are not a coin with which God buys people’s faith. We are very infatuated with our scientific knowledge and strictly put people for the vast majority don’t even want a miracle but just a sollution for their problems. There are also various theories abput energies that claim to explain miracles so God performing miracles to show His existance simply doesn’t lead to people acknowledging Him but they can come up with many other esoteric explanations for those miracles.
Miracles no longer lead people to God so God probably no longer plans on showing Himself through the miracles.

 

[rakovskii]

By showing miracles, like the Christ and Christians did according to the Bible, God will gain millions or billions of believers for FREE. Some people will convert to the Christianity and God can save the creation of God.

So why wouldn’t God show miracles now?

Good question. One answer is that God is showing miracles, but you need to look for them. There is suffering (Tsunamis), but there is also salvation and healing (rescue workers, Red Cross), according to this answer. There are also supernatural miracles or surprising “coincidences”.

One of the miracles or wonders is Visions. There are claims of visions that you can find, and there are skeptics. Visions I think are hard to prove. Let me give you an example: In the early church, a major document was the Shepherd of Hermas (1st-2nd century) by Hermas of Rome (allegedly). It is a series of visions from a Shepherd (Christ). But the treatise is so long, that it makes me think that it is probably composed by someone as a fiction like the story of “Dante’s Inferno” in medieval times, which was a series of visions of heaven and hell. I’ll let you read the Shepherd and make up your own mind. I made a thread about it (Questions on the Shepherd of Hermas). Let me know what you think.

So to answer your question, there really could be visions today just like in ancient times, but you should think about it carefully.