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Baho
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I’m expecting a lot of attacks on Glenn Beck or the Blaze but the content in the video is something you can find and verify for yourself. Legitimate problem.
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I’m expecting a lot of attacks on Glenn Beck or the Blaze but the content in the video is something you can find and verify for yourself. Legitimate problem.
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Gertabelle
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I watched the first three minutes — I have other things to do with my life besides watch a propaganda video.
But this is hilarious! OMG, talk about conspiracy theories!
No, sweetheart, the public schools aren’t brainwashing your children to be marxists, or training them to be activists. Sheesh. And teachers unions aren’t satanic cults.
Public schools are filled with Catholic and Protestant and deeply religious non-Chirstian teachers and staff members trying to make a difference in the lives of children and their families. They spend their own money buying materials for their classrooms and their students; they would take a bullet for other people’s kids and go to work everyday knowing they might have to.
They are pawns of every political wanna-be, and the target of every self-absorbed conspiracy theorist trying to sell a product or book speaking engagements.
And unless you yourself are prepared to take their place in the classroom, I suggest you not make the teacher shortage in this country worse by causing teachers and school staff even more pain.
Please do not engage in the sins of gossip or calumny. Just stop spreading this rubbish.
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Reverent_Howler
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I had heard elsewhere that teachers were worried that parents might be sitting in on the lessons online. Then they might object to what was actually being taught.
Locally, we have a former elementary school teacher who once picketed Dow Chemical during the Vietnam War, was busted for trespass at an Air Force Base during the 1980s, and presently heads up the local environmental group as their president-for-life. He now teaches history at the local community college. I’d certainly be concerned as to what he’s passing on to kids.
Locally, we have a former elementary school teacher who once picketed Dow Chemical during the Vietnam War, was busted for trespass at an Air Force Base during the 1980s, and presently heads up the local environmental group as their president-for-life. He now teaches history at the local community college. I’d certainly be concerned as to what he’s passing on to kids.
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Baho
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Sharing reporting on actual materials that are actually being distributed and that the Secretary of Education actually confirms at the end of the video is gossip? Ha.
Public school is an inefficient waste of funds that promotes the destruction of the nuclear families by tricking all moms into thinking they need to be full-time career professionals as well. The kids can’t get enough attention, curricula are vulnerable to the effect of powerful social currents, and the teachers are very rarely willing to do anything but tow the party line due to the reciprocal nature of the unions relationship with the DNC. I’ve had amazing teachers, instructors and professors and I know they’re out there, but you’re not going to get me to agree that it’s better to put my child in a bloated, inattentive daycare for most of their adolescent life so that we can enjoy dual income. Maybe this wouldn’t be so believable (forgetting it actually being confirmed by the Secretary of Education) if teachers hadn’t been bringing trans men and women into classrooms for years to read to and corrupt young impressionable children.
I get that you’re a teacher, from your bio, but I’m not attacking you. If it felt like it was, I’m sorry. I’ve read plenty of criticisms of my profession and I’m worried I’ll be defunded and gone every election cycle. But things are weird and bad right now. Social values are being attacked, people are being absolutely possessed by an anti-American ideology pushed and circulated in the form of the 1619 project, and religion itself is not too far from being attacked next. I’ll absolutely let my wife teach them instead.
Public school is an inefficient waste of funds that promotes the destruction of the nuclear families by tricking all moms into thinking they need to be full-time career professionals as well. The kids can’t get enough attention, curricula are vulnerable to the effect of powerful social currents, and the teachers are very rarely willing to do anything but tow the party line due to the reciprocal nature of the unions relationship with the DNC. I’ve had amazing teachers, instructors and professors and I know they’re out there, but you’re not going to get me to agree that it’s better to put my child in a bloated, inattentive daycare for most of their adolescent life so that we can enjoy dual income. Maybe this wouldn’t be so believable (forgetting it actually being confirmed by the Secretary of Education) if teachers hadn’t been bringing trans men and women into classrooms for years to read to and corrupt young impressionable children.
I get that you’re a teacher, from your bio, but I’m not attacking you. If it felt like it was, I’m sorry. I’ve read plenty of criticisms of my profession and I’m worried I’ll be defunded and gone every election cycle. But things are weird and bad right now. Social values are being attacked, people are being absolutely possessed by an anti-American ideology pushed and circulated in the form of the 1619 project, and religion itself is not too far from being attacked next. I’ll absolutely let my wife teach them instead.
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Gertabelle
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Actual materials? Oh for goodness sake, if I had a nickle for every time someone said “This right here is what is actually being taught in your child’s classroom!” — when it was something that not a single teacher I knew had ever seen or heard of… well, I could retire tomorrow, but I won’t.
Sorry, but Secretary DeVos has about as much clout in education as President Trump. I assume they both went to school and graduated high school. But they have spent less time in public schools, and know less about what goes on there than an immigrant parent who doesn’t even speak English yet!
Seriously, the woman doesn’t exactly have her finger on the pulse of public education.
Well, you must have some reason for hating public schools and public education and all those teachers. But if you’re gonna choose to destroy their character and encourage others to do the same, could you maybe do a little fact checking that doesn’t involve “only news sources that agree with my opinions and political leanings?”
Personally, I just think it’s wrong to malign total strangers and encourage others to do so as well. Whatever. Pubic school teachers will keep doing their jobs regardless of the slander thrown at them on the daily.
As for me, I am up way too late. I’m getting up early tomorrow to go to confession, and then I have seven classes to teach tomorrow. You’re welcome.
Sorry, but Secretary DeVos has about as much clout in education as President Trump. I assume they both went to school and graduated high school. But they have spent less time in public schools, and know less about what goes on there than an immigrant parent who doesn’t even speak English yet!
Seriously, the woman doesn’t exactly have her finger on the pulse of public education.
Well, you must have some reason for hating public schools and public education and all those teachers. But if you’re gonna choose to destroy their character and encourage others to do the same, could you maybe do a little fact checking that doesn’t involve “only news sources that agree with my opinions and political leanings?”
Personally, I just think it’s wrong to malign total strangers and encourage others to do so as well. Whatever. Pubic school teachers will keep doing their jobs regardless of the slander thrown at them on the daily.
As for me, I am up way too late. I’m getting up early tomorrow to go to confession, and then I have seven classes to teach tomorrow. You’re welcome.
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I will admit I have not watched and probably will not watch said video, but it is best to not have your children in public school nonetheless. The “public” does not have our values as servants of God, and all that is in the world is not of God. We were called out of it and so why (unless you can not afford to) would you let it raise your children? God forbid.
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{2:16} For all that is in the world is the desire of the flesh, and the desire of the eyes, and the arrogance of a life which is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Homeschooling is better in our situation.
Here is a letter from St. Jerome on the raising of a child:
The one unbeliever is sanctified by his holy and believing family. For, when a man is surrounded by a believing crowd of children and grandchildren, he is as good as a candidate for the faith. I for my part think that, had he possessed so many Christian kinsfolk when he was a young man, he might then have been brought to believe in Christ. For though he may spit upon my letter and laugh at it, and though he may call me a fool or a madman, his son-in-law did the same before he came to believe. Christians are not born but made.
Let her treasures be not silks or gems but manuscripts of the holy scriptures; and in these let her think less of gilding, and Babylonian parchment, and arabesque patterns, than of correctness and accurate punctuation. Let her begin by learning the psalter, and then let her gather rules of life out of the proverbs of Solomon. From the Preacher let her gain the habit of despising the world and its vanities. Let her follow the example set in Job of virtue and of patience. Then let her pass on to the gospels never to be laid aside when once they have been taken in hand. Let her also drink in with a willing heart the Acts of the Apostles and the Epistles. As soon as she has enriched the storehouse of her mind with these treasures, let her commit to memory the prophets the heptateuch, the books of Kings and of Chronicles, the rolls also of Ezra and Esther. When she has done all these she may safely read the Song of Songs but not before: for, were she to read it at the beginning, she would fail to perceive that, though it is written in fleshly words, it is a marriage song of a spiritual bridal. And not understanding this she would suffer hurt from it. The letters of Athanasius and the treatises of Hilary she may go through without fear of stumbling. Let her take pleasure in the works and wits of all in whose books a due regard for the faithis not neglected. But if she reads the works of others let it be rather to judge them than to follow them.
Full letter: CHURCH FATHERS: Letter 107 (Jerome)
“Commit to memory.” How wonderful would it be if we raised our children like this!
[1 John]
{2:16} For all that is in the world is the desire of the flesh, and the desire of the eyes, and the arrogance of a life which is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Homeschooling is better in our situation.
Here is a letter from St. Jerome on the raising of a child:
The one unbeliever is sanctified by his holy and believing family. For, when a man is surrounded by a believing crowd of children and grandchildren, he is as good as a candidate for the faith. I for my part think that, had he possessed so many Christian kinsfolk when he was a young man, he might then have been brought to believe in Christ. For though he may spit upon my letter and laugh at it, and though he may call me a fool or a madman, his son-in-law did the same before he came to believe. Christians are not born but made.
Let her treasures be not silks or gems but manuscripts of the holy scriptures; and in these let her think less of gilding, and Babylonian parchment, and arabesque patterns, than of correctness and accurate punctuation. Let her begin by learning the psalter, and then let her gather rules of life out of the proverbs of Solomon. From the Preacher let her gain the habit of despising the world and its vanities. Let her follow the example set in Job of virtue and of patience. Then let her pass on to the gospels never to be laid aside when once they have been taken in hand. Let her also drink in with a willing heart the Acts of the Apostles and the Epistles. As soon as she has enriched the storehouse of her mind with these treasures, let her commit to memory the prophets the heptateuch, the books of Kings and of Chronicles, the rolls also of Ezra and Esther. When she has done all these she may safely read the Song of Songs but not before: for, were she to read it at the beginning, she would fail to perceive that, though it is written in fleshly words, it is a marriage song of a spiritual bridal. And not understanding this she would suffer hurt from it. The letters of Athanasius and the treatises of Hilary she may go through without fear of stumbling. Let her take pleasure in the works and wits of all in whose books a due regard for the faithis not neglected. But if she reads the works of others let it be rather to judge them than to follow them.
Full letter: CHURCH FATHERS: Letter 107 (Jerome)
“Commit to memory.” How wonderful would it be if we raised our children like this!
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Baho
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" Schools in the United States have always been tools for consolidating wealth into White hands, even when some people of Color have found success in these systems."
“… to understand Asian success in US schools is to understand the history of White supremacy that undergirds the Asian success story in the United States.”
Lol. Boy howdy. Im not making these up all you gotta do is Google it friend. Im sure you’re great but youre not the entire public school system.
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Cor_ad_Cor
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They’re not?! Now you’ve got me wondering what the blood oath was that I had to swear to when I signed up…
I’ve been a teacher and taught teacher education/prep for 20 years. I still get a kick out of the crazy stories about the “hidden agenda” we all must certainly have.
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Polak
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I haven’t seen the video and I would not advocate for taking kids out of school and homeschooling them, unless you really want to. It’s also a privilege wealthier families tend to have, and I often see rich people convincing others they should homeschool, like Kevin Sorbo (of Hercules and Andromeda fame) and his wife.
I of course don’t believe if you’re a teacher you’re in on any weird conspiracy to turn children into Marxists, but I do believe the march through the institutions is real in some ways, and while many teachers might not have signed up to indoctrinate children, in many schools and universities, there is some level of indoctrination going on, with the decisions on what must be taught often being taken even at government level. Of course there are many subjects where you can’t really indoctrinate, but there are also ones where you can.
I mean, in the UK some of the things the government is mandating be taught on sexual education, is disturbing. I’m no expert in the field and don’t know whether schools can reject this, or if at least government funded ones have to accept it.
I of course don’t believe if you’re a teacher you’re in on any weird conspiracy to turn children into Marxists, but I do believe the march through the institutions is real in some ways, and while many teachers might not have signed up to indoctrinate children, in many schools and universities, there is some level of indoctrination going on, with the decisions on what must be taught often being taken even at government level. Of course there are many subjects where you can’t really indoctrinate, but there are also ones where you can.
I mean, in the UK some of the things the government is mandating be taught on sexual education, is disturbing. I’m no expert in the field and don’t know whether schools can reject this, or if at least government funded ones have to accept it.
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TC3033
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That would be an incorrect assumption. It’s FERPA, there are kids that aren’t allowed to be photographed/on camera. They (teachers and parents) can’t record lessons that have students in the classroom.
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Gertabelle
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Apparently our agenda isn’t hidden. Didn’t you see this brilliant man made a whole video about it. I guess the only ones who don’t know about it are the teachers.Gertabelle:
They’re not?! Now you’ve got me wondering what the blood oath was that I had to swear to when I signed up…
I’ve been a teacher and taught teacher education/prep for 20 years. I still get a kick out of the crazy stories about the “hidden agenda” we all must certainly have.
And don’t you love when someone posts all this hate towards public school teachers, but as soon as a real person shows up, they say some variation of, “I’m sure you’re the exception.”
Sheesh. I’m out. Let the haters enjoy their echo chamber and relish their enlightenment, while some of us do the work they won’t.
I stayed away from CAF for the entire summer and only just came back to be attacked? Dang, this is my 24th year of teaching, and it is The Most Stressful start I have ever experienced!
@Baho I don’t know how long you’ve been around here, but no one (unless you’re one of their besties) is gonna sit down and watch a 45+ minute video just because some stranger says it’s important.
If you want a real discussion, post some bullet points, maybe tell people where to find those in the video (i.e., time stamps). Yeah, it’ll take time, but that’s lesson prep for ya. A good lesson takes longer to create than it does to teach — two or three times more.
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Sarcelle
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Homeschooling is a good option but it’s not for everyone.
Not all parents will make good teachers.
Also how about parents who have to work to earn a living? Not all families have an income that will allow for one of them to stay home full time and teach.
Homeschooling is not the silver bullet in solving society’s problems.
Not all parents will make good teachers.
Also how about parents who have to work to earn a living? Not all families have an income that will allow for one of them to stay home full time and teach.
Homeschooling is not the silver bullet in solving society’s problems.
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Sarcelle
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Hmm so you found some whack a doodle ideas from the left in order to bolster some whack a doodle ideas from the right.
How about concentrating on the middle and seeing things for what they are? There is no vast Marxist conspiracy. There are some whack a doodles espousing some weird Marxist ideas just like there are some weird Neo Nazi whack a doodles espousing Hitlerian ideas.
Most of real life takes place in the middle.
How about concentrating on the middle and seeing things for what they are? There is no vast Marxist conspiracy. There are some whack a doodles espousing some weird Marxist ideas just like there are some weird Neo Nazi whack a doodles espousing Hitlerian ideas.
Most of real life takes place in the middle.
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puer.dei
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Good for him.
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puer.dei
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As is so often the case with conspiracy theories – the people supposedly carrying them out are totally in the dark. Which should – but won’t! – tell the conspiracy theorists something.
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puer.dei
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Thank you, thank you, thank you. I’m one of those who know I could never do that job, and I appreciate those who do.
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PaulinVA
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Wow. I wouldn’t watch a Glenn Beck video if you paid me. But, I skipped around and listened to some of the rants.
Not persuasive, a lot of “only I’m telling you this”.
I agree that there are sex education and family life and other issues that are being taught that have orientations or values that are not white nuclear family based. Okay.
Sometimes it all sounds like, “You should be teaching what I believe, not what you believe”.
Not persuasive, a lot of “only I’m telling you this”.
I agree that there are sex education and family life and other issues that are being taught that have orientations or values that are not white nuclear family based. Okay.
Sometimes it all sounds like, “You should be teaching what I believe, not what you believe”.
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JJammaz
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I know, it’s why I mentioned to do it only if you can afford it. Affording it also comes with paying for a curriculum if you can’t teach things. Stuff like this (although there are many other ones, probably cheaper: https://www.setonhome.org/). Then there is the factor that if you want your children more “socialized” (although this is not a good thing in public school as they will be socialized into the values of evil-doers) you must be able to afford to go out of your way to visit a homeschool co-op, which may or may not exist in your city. But if you can afford it then the goal is not to fix the problems of society but instead to flee from them and towards God only. At least concerning children who are rarely equipped to battle the world and the evil of others at such ages, and are more prone to be overcome with it completely undoing all parenting at home.
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Baho
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Yep we use Seton and joined a co-op, its been awesome. Money is tight and things keep breaking but the kids love being with their mom, they’re learning a lot, and I’m not too concerned about getting rich anyway.
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TC3033
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OK, this is a new one. Please tell me how/why this will WILL happen.
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