Why you should think that the Natural-Evolution of species is true

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Since blind unguided chance doesn’t know what it’s doing, we should have millions of fossils of these “mistakes.” We don’t.
 
Techno2000 said:
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Wozza:
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The 'ol Berkely evo site. LOL
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I thought it would be helpful to you. You are (excuse me for saying so) making quite a few basic errors in your understanding of the subject. I didn’t think that that site would be too difficult to understand but there are other simpler ones:

https://www.bbc.com/bitesize/articles/z9qs4qt
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poorly adapted were less likely to survive and their characteristics were not as likely to be inherited.

https://www.bbc.com/bitesize/articles/z9qs4qt

What creatures did evolution not make fit for its environment ?
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Is this a comprehension test?

Why are you asking questions that you already answered IN THE SAME POST?

You guys crack me up.
 
edwest said:
Since blind unguided chance doesn’t know what it’s doing, we should have millions of fossils of these “mistakes.” We don’t.
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Gosh. I can’t understand why nobody has explained that to you!
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edwest said:
Since blind unguided chance doesn’t know what it’s doing, we should have millions of fossils of these “mistakes.” We don’t.
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Well you know evolution has to go through a lot of trial and error to get it right. :roll_eyes:
 
But if it was all true, at certain points because some creatures were “evolving”, one would end up with intermediate creatures that could not walk, swim, or fly at some point in this process…
 
Gabika50 said:
But if it was all true, at certain points because some creatures were “evolving”, one would end up with intermediate creatures that could not walk, swim, or fly at some point in this process…
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Kinda like the Island of Misfit Toys
 
Wozza said:
Hello. Someone posting tbe exact thing as they did on a number of previous ocassions. Gee, I should study this to see if there was something I missed the first three or four times.
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I notice that this is a repeat of what you’ve said earlier.

I don’t think I was speaking directly to you, but thanks for reading and trying to understand. There’s obviously a great deal you’ve missed, join the club. We are all a work in progress, even as we, who are on the other side of the curve are regressing.

What would help everyone would be a contribution from yourself. While I personally try to explain the deficiencies of evolutionary theory, I do offer an alternative.

Why not say what you got out of the time spent reading a post.

To admit that one missed the point the first three or four times simply elicits a response that involves . . . speaking . . . very . . . slowly . . . enunciating each word . . . one . . . at . . . a . . . time.

I am hoping you get my point? You probably have something to add to the conversation. One alternatively, cannot go wrong by just listening.
 
Aloysium said:
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Wozza:
Hello. Someone posting tbe exact thing as they did on a number of previous ocassions. Gee, I should study this to see if there was something I missed the first three or four times.
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I notice that this is a repeat of what you’ve said earlier.

I don’t think I was speaking directly to you, but thanks for reading and trying to understand. There’s obviously a great deal you’ve missed, join the club. We are all a work in progress, even as we, who are on the other side of the curve are regressing.

What would help everyone would be a contribution from yourself. While I personally try to explain the deficiencies of evolutionary theory, I do offer an alternative.

Why not say what you got out of the time spent reading a post.

To admit that one missed the point the first three or four times simply elicits a response that involves . . . speaking . . . very . . . slowly . . . enunciating each word . . . one . . . at . . . a . . . time.

I am hoping you get my point? You probably have something to add to the conversation. One alternatively, cannot go wrong by just listening.
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Well, there was a little white lie in there. As I said earlier, I don’t read your posts. I find that there are people who advance a thread and we all get a little out of it and others…well, not so much.

This is a thread about a technical subject and I have found that some people are sadly lacking in even the most basic knowledge of it to be able to hold a reasonable discussion. One post just above suggested that because of evolution there must be creatures that can nether walk or swim or fly - a comment that could only be made by someone who, not necessarily and simply disagrees with the subject, but patently is ingnorant of even the most fundumental concepts.

Some people have a barrow to push. I think it’s best to step aside if we can and let them push it.
 
Wozza said:
Well, there was a little white lie in there. As I said earlier, I don’t read your posts.
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It really seems sometimes that people just talk to themselves. Obviously you read my post and that is why you replied. A little white lie to be sure.

But, I get that long posts require a great deal of concentration; I find that too, but I try usually to figure out where a person’s coming from, in order to provide a meaningful reply.
Wozza said:
One post just above suggested that because of evolution there must be creatures that can nether walk or swim or fly - a comment that could only be made by someone who, not necessarily and simply disagrees with the subject, but patently is ingnorant of even the most fundumental concepts.
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You can stop reading here.

I shouldn’t speak for others but lets try this on for size. Ignoring the fact that it is one component among many that constitutre a cell, let’s focus on DNA. We can think of it as information in action. It participates in the processes of life to grow, maintain and allow for reproduction of the cell. It is a material configuration and therefore subject to the random forces of nature that include radiation and toxins, as well as the glitches, the noise that is present in any system. What those random events do is disrutp the information, I mean disrp eht infromtion, disssr te infrtion. The likelihood of anything randomly appearing, that has greater meaning than what was previously present is extremely remote. Before natural selection has a hand in shaping things, there would be innumerable organisms that would find it difficult to survive. The chances of there being creatures that could not walk or swim, would be far, far greater than the random appearance from those who can becoming those which have not only the wings, but the skeletal structure to enable flight.
 
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Wozza said:
a comment that could only be made by someone who, not necessarily and simply disagrees with the subject, but patently is ingnorant of even the most fundumental concepts.
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Not much to know about evolution other than to just believe it’s true and you’ll get along well in this world.
 
Aloysium said:
The chances of there being creatures that could not walk or swim, would be far, far greater than the random appearance from those who can becoming those which have not only the wings, but the skeletal structure to enable flight.
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You’ll never get any details of how it works from these people, because the whole thing is speculation right from the start.
 
Dinosaurs went extinct 65 million ago… yet they still had millions of years more of extra time to morph into birds. 🤔
 
That’s the whole point of years of threads like this. Just sign on the dotted line – Yes, I believe it’s true. Then you get left alone.
 
edwest said:
Since blind unguided chance doesn’t know what it’s doing, we should have millions of fossils of these “mistakes.”
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How do you know we don’t? A “mistake” is likely to be so subtle that would you not notice anything different in the fossil. And if it truly was a bad mutation, it would not survive long enough to make millions of them.
Gabika50 said:
But if it was all true, at certain points because some creatures were “evolving”, one would end up with intermediate creatures that could not walk, swim, or fly at some point in this process…
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Not true. Brand new capabilities do not evolve in the most logical straight-line path that you might imagine. Instead, the intermediate creatures have structures of features that serve different uses from the uses they might ultimately have after evolution, such a flipper gradually turning into a leg, or the other way around.
Techno2000 said:
Dinosaurs went extinct 65 million ago… yet they still had millions of years more of extra time to morph into birds. 🤔
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They started morphing into birds long before the extinction event. No problem.
 
Very large creatures died but the little bird-dinos made it.

I have been involved in writing fiction for decades, and evolution takes the cake. It can do anything, explain anything. But I prefer stories where guesswork and imagination are clearly that.
 
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