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edwest
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That’s the problem. We’re told over half the planet experienced the event but certain creatures were immune from it.
Why you should think that the Natural-Evolution of species is true
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LeafByNiggle
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It’s good practice.LeafByNiggle:
Seriously. Why do you continue with this?Techno2000:
Not necessarily. If the extinction event did not happen and we still had dinosaurs today, some of them may still have evolved into birds, and we would have both, inhabiting different niches in the environment. They might not even compete with each other.
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Wozza
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Talking to a brick wall is good practice. For talking to a brick wall.Wozza:
It’s good practice.LeafByNiggle:
Seriously. Why do you continue with this?Techno2000:
Not necessarily. If the extinction event did not happen and we still had dinosaurs today, some of them may still have evolved into birds, and we would have both, inhabiting different niches in the environment. They might not even compete with each other.
There were a few guys who had put up some posters in the town centre a few days ago. They were members of a local flat earth society. I kid you not. I wandered over thinking it might have been some of the city uni students having a laugh. But these guys were serious. I’d never seen one in real life.
So I checked them out and had a chat with them while my wife did some shopping. They seemed quite normal.
But nothing I was going to say to them would have made them realise that they were grossly uneducated and ignorant of the most basic of scientific knowledge.
I had some time so I considered taking them to task. Showing them, with the benefit of my superior knowledge, how dumb they were and, consequently, how smart I was in comparison. But after a few minutes I began to feel uncomfortable about what I was doing and more importantly, why I was doing it.
They were harmless enough. They had their beliefs and weren’t doing anyone any harm. It’s not like they were being taken seriously. So I left them to it. There was no-one else that seemed interested in what they had fo say. So why would I bother. Apart from proving I was smarter than they were (shooting fish in a barrel).
Alien abductions. Flat eartbers. Young earthers. Evolution deniers. Big Foot sighters. Birthers. 9/11 conspirators. Just leave them to it. Have a quick laugh at their expense if you will. But any more than that and you need to think about why you are doing it.
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Crusaderbear
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Couldn’t have said it better myself! To paraphrase Shakespeare…
“There are more things in heaven and Earth, Ed , / Than are dreamt of in your philosophy…”
Arguing evolution is really a zero sum game…too many “what aboutisms” keep cropping up.
A pleasant Sunday evening to all! Good By!
“There are more things in heaven and Earth, Ed , / Than are dreamt of in your philosophy…”
Arguing evolution is really a zero sum game…too many “what aboutisms” keep cropping up.
A pleasant Sunday evening to all! Good By!
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Techno2000
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Because, a weak theory, based on speculation makes that possible.
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Aloysium
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So, you do know exactly what it’s like to speak to someone promoting evolution. The exception is that society promotes the delusion. It’s little consolation to the ego that the truth will eventually be known. But, it doesn’t matter anyway, the belief reflecting an attitude that is the basic problem. That’s what needs fixing, as it’s the most important and effects how one interprets things and impacts on the actions that determine who one will be for all eternity.
LeafByNiggle
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The exception is that evolution is supported by scientific evidence while flat-earth theory is not.
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Aloysium
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I would say equally does creationism; but that would be an attempt to meet you half way. Actually creation is a far better way to make sense of the scientific data. And, it is far, far more comprehensive when it comes to explaining who we are.
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Edgar
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No, not at all. Genesis 1-3 appears to be a mysterious mixture of the literal and the figurative. For example, I believe Genesis 1:1 and 1:14-18 are literal and the “six days” are figurative.
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Edgar
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How did they come up with that date?
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Edgar
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I suppose they could survive, if it was a tailored made “extinction event” that only targeted the large dinosaurs…but that’s just fantasy
It could have been a mass-suicide thing … like a “Heaven’s Gate” scenario for dinosaurs.
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Edgar
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It doesn’t matter if one doesn’t ‘learn’ about how life (allegedly) on earth evolved from microbes - nothing could be more irrelevant and useless.
LeafByNiggle
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Are you asking because you don’t think it is possible to estimate that date? Or because you don’t think it happened? Or because you really want to be educated? I am tired of questions with no point.LeafByNiggle:
How did they come up with that date?
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Edgar
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But it’s just a story atheists invented and propagate for their own psychological well-being … so it only needs to APPEAR scientific, not actually BE scientific.
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Edgar
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I used to the Flat Earth Society was some kind of joke organisation … then I found out something truly disturbing - there are many (educated) people on this planet who really do believe it’s flat.
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Edgar
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However, what they do have in common is, both beliefs represent useless information.
LeafByNiggle
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This goes to the heart of the question of basic research. There are some people who believe that the only knowledge worth spending time on is knowledge that is sought to solve an existing problem in daily life. And then there are people who believe that basic research (research not directed at solving any specific problem) is potentially desirable. I am in the second group.LeafByNiggle:
It doesn’t matter if one doesn’t ‘learn’ about how life (allegedly) on earth evolved from microbes - nothing could be more irrelevant and useless.
There are many areas of study besides evolution that people engage in just for the love of the field. Most of astrophysics falls into that category. Man has studied the movement of stars, measured their distances from earth, calculated their mass, searched for planets orbiting those stars - all without any chance of that knowledge itself having any impact on anyone on earth. Another example is music and art, which provide satisfaction to millions of people without solving any tangible benefit to society. (For more on the Art subject, I refer you to my namesake favorite short story “Leaf By Niggle” by J.R.R. Tolkien, wherein an artist is deemed useless to the society in which he lives, but is honored in the afterlife.) The whole movie-making industry is mostly useless for real life. And poets are the most useless of all.
You see, once you start thinking like the people in poor Niggle’s world, you will have to throw out a lot more than evolution.
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Edgar
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I know that some genetics researchers involved in finding cures for disease use the premise that humans and chimps share a common ancestor. This is rank pseudo-science … not to mention a waste of time and money.
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Edgar
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I really want to know.
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Edgar
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I not against scientific inquiry at all. Although I do believe evolutionary theories about the history of life on this planet will prove completely useless, because I believe that history was not the result of a completely natural process.
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