It’s the logical implications of your arguments that insist that despite the impossible odds, we must just accept that things without consciousness displayed the attributes of intelligence i.e. created instructions. If you were not dogmatically committed to materialism, there would be no reason to hold on to such a notion.
Some parts of the universe are purely material, the orbit of the earth around the sun for example. There is no need for angels to push the planets round their orbits.
I beg to differ, the angels rule the cosmos well beyond our earthly sights and detection mechanisms.
But back to the topic! That’s a bad analogy. There is no logical reason to be shocked that the earth is affected by gravity that I can think of. But I’ll tell you what, if the earth starts displaying the attributes of consciousness in its movements, like deciding against all odds to start ducking to avoid collisions with giant asteroids heading our way or something, I’ll need more than gravity to explain that behaviour.
In that case, either the earth is intelligent or it was manipulated by something that is. There are no other logical options. But note, even then, wed be talking of a small degree of intelligence, animal level. What you’re claiming was done by things with even less intelligence than animal intelligence (zero), is a good deal more: It’s something even
we are not capable of!
So no, we don’t artificially lock out possible explanations by deciding arbitrarily that only material answers are allowed while believing in a reality that is both material and immaterial. We just stick to logic. This is why I had no problem with evolution as I understood it before.
(PS: That, by the way, is no proof that physics doesn’t need an immaterial player. It’s just enough to explain the earth’s movement within physics (the cosmos) using gravity, itself part of physics. But of course when you follow that chain of causation to the end, you still have to wind up with an immaterial foundation to make any of it possible at all, beyond physics.)
The immaterial does have some effects on the material, as with karma, but there are large parts of the material world that operate perfectly well without immaterial influence, chemistry for example. Are djinni needed to form a water molecule from hydrogen and oxygen?
I’d say there are large parts we can explain without resorting to immaterial realities, but that’s not proof that these large parts in fact operate, as you say, “without immaterial influence”. Just not any we can detect.
