Why you should think that the Natural-Evolution of species is true

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edwest said:
You do realize that this statement amounts to bias?
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I studied and gained knowledge and that indicates bias? I think that says more about your position than I could ever do.

If I studied and gained knowledge that indicated to me that the world was not how it appeared - flat, but was in fact round, would that be bias? Obviously not in that case because it wouldn’t contradict your fundamental Christian beliefs as regards creationism.

But what if I studied and gained knowledge that the earth was a few billion years old. Would that exhibit bias. Well, it would do to someone who held a fundamental Christian belief that the world was no older than 6,000 years.

Do you see a pattern here?
 
Bradskii said:
But what if I studied and gained knowledge that the earth was a few billion years old. Would that exhibit bias. Well, it would do to someone who held a fundamental Christian belief that the world was no older than 6,000 years.
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But what if I studied and gained knowledge that life was designed by an intelligent agent. Would that exhibit bias. Well, it would do to someone who held a evolutionary belief that the life exists by random mutations and natural selection.
 
buffalo said:
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Bradskii:
Nobody is denying the right for creationism to be taught.
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How about empirical science only in the classroom, like gravity, and physics, etc.? Evo and ID in a mandatory philosophy class.
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Evolution comes under biology. Biology includes evolution. Evolution is the only scientific theory that explains how we are where we are. Biologically speaking. So that would be taught in the biology department of the science wing. If you have another theory that doesn’t include a religious position (and we have all agreed that ID is based on religious views), then offer it up.

ID’s philosophical position is based on a religious belief. Let it offer classes in philosophy.
 
buffalo said:
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Bradskii:
But what if I studied and gained knowledge that the earth was a few billion years old. Would that exhibit bias. Well, it would do to someone who held a fundamental Christian belief that the world was no older than 6,000 years.
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But what if I studied and gained knowledge that life was designed by an intelligent agent. Would that exhibit bias. Well, it would do to someone who held a evolutionary belief that the life exists by random mutations and natural selection.
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You’ll have to ask Ed. He’s the one that says knowledge can be biased as regards his personal beliefs. Me, I treat all scientific knowledge on its own basis. Not on prior assumptions.
 
I certainly do but the title of this topic is the reason for this discussion. In my view: studying old, dead things is fine. But that’s it.
  1. Evolution has no practical scientific use. For example, it adds zero knowledge to new drug discovery.
  2. Based on the above, evolution amounts to something that is not knowledge. It is only useful for promoting an atheist, materialist worldview.
 
edwest said:
I certainly do but the title of this topic is the reason for this discussion. In my view: studying old, dead things is fine. But that’s it.
  1. Evolution has no practical scientific use. For example, it adds zero knowledge to new drug discovery.
  2. Based on the above, evolution amounts to something that is not knowledge. It is only useful for promoting an atheist, materialist worldview.
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Straw man. It doesn’t promote atheism and neither does it deny God.
 
Bradskii said:
Evolution is the only scientific theory that explains how we are where we are.
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Actually, ID, the science is a better explanation. The facts of fsci and design can be taught without any religious reference.
 
Bradskii said:
Me, I treat all scientific knowledge on its own basis. Not on prior assumptions.
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No you don’t. Are you kidding me. You actually posted this? You subscribe to methodological naturalism. The a priori assumption is God is not involved.
 
buffalo said:
The facts of fsci and design can be taught without any religious reference.
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You mean like the fact that intelligence requires FSCI and that hence the intelligent designer requires a meta-designer in order to exist?
 
buffalo said:
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Bradskii:
Evolution is the only scientific theory that explains how we are where we are.
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Actually, ID, the science is a better explanation. The facts of fsci and design can be taught without any religious reference.
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Intelligent Design can be taught without religious reference? I now have tequila all over my keyboard…

How do you have the nerve to actually type such a statement. Let alone post it.
 
buffalo said:
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Bradskii:
Me, I treat all scientific knowledge on its own basis. Not on prior assumptions.
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No you don’t. Are you kidding me. You actually posted this? You subscribe to methodological naturalism. The a priori assumption is God is not involved.
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Straw man. I never discount God. Even as an atheist.
 
Of course it does.
  1. A human being is a biological device and not exceptional at all.
  2. This idea is the perfect selling tool to promote atheism.
  3. God is just a word used to pacify certain types of people.
  4. The sacred science classroom cannot use the word(s) God/gods.
  5. The student is convinced that he or she is a function of physics and chemistry, without any worth outside of what they may assign to themselves.
 
buffalo said:
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Bradskii:
Why not? It describes dna.
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OK. We can teach DNA has fsci. Can we teach that there is a threshold of odds that tilts the meter from chance to design? Do you believe there is such a threshold?
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You are not allowed to include ‘design by God’. How any times do you need to be told? Remember the first amendement? Should I cut ‘n’ paste it?

Go down the corridor to the philosophy section. Second door on the right. Talk about God all you want and what He has designed.
 
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