Why you should think that the Natural-Evolution of species is true

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Techno2000 said:
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Vonsalza:
Plenty of theist evolutionists are happy to say that God designed evolution to work in a way that didn’t require His continual intervention and then sent the “ball” rolling.
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Too bad the fossil record doesn’t show that.
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Which I guess means that a fossil proves divine intervention?

Which one? That new one-meter tall “T-Rex” they discovered that explains a 70 million year gap in the evolution of tyrannosaurs?
 
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Techno2000 said:
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Vonsalza:
Plenty of theist evolutionists are happy to say that God designed evolution to work in a way that didn’t require His continual intervention and then sent the “ball” rolling.
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Too bad the fossil record doesn’t show that.
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Yes! We have the trifecta. I do enjoy these chats when all the usual suspects are present.
 
buffalo said:
BS - scientists who adhere to evolutionism are atheists. They claim it was because of evolution.
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So at this point, you probably wouldn’t believe me if I told you that there were Christian, even Catholic men with PhDs working in the sciences that believe in evolution?
 
buffalo said:
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Vonsalza:
God is just a non-issue to evolution. It’s unrelated.

Evolution fails to consider God just like it fails to consider the merits of democracy.

It’s a different topic.

To the learned, “category error”.
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BS - scientists who adhere to evolutionism are atheists.
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Patently, monstrously, hugely, glactically wrong. I hear scraping. Sounds like the bottom of a barrel. Anyone else hear it.
 
Vonsalza said:
So at this point, you probably wouldn’t believe me if I told you that there were Christian, even Catholic men with PhDs working in the sciences that believe in evolution?
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Be careful here. Evolutionary biologists…

Of course there are. However, surveys showed the majority were and it was because they believe in evolution. Check it out for yourself.

Would you believe it if I showed you atheist PHD’s who believe in intelligent design. (and some who converted to Christianity because they went where the evidence led - to intelligent design)
 
Bradskii said:
Yes! We have the trifecta. I do enjoy these chats when all the usual suspects are present.
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Evolution Bingo. Almost there!

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buffalo said:
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Vonsalza:
So at this point, you probably wouldn’t believe me if I told you that there were Christian, even Catholic men with PhDs working in the sciences that believe in evolution?
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Be careful here. Evolutionary biologists…

Of course there are. However, surveys showed the majority were and it was because they believe in evolution. Check it out for yourself.

Would you believe it if I showed you atheist PHD’s who believe in intelligent design. (and some who converted to Christianity because they went where the evidence led - to intelligent design)
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I’d believe you that most are atheists. Seen it myself.

As I said earlier, when faith fights reason, faith tends to lose.

It’s because i can usually see and verify reason. Not so with faith.
 
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buffalo said:
However, surveys showed the majority were and it was because they believe in evolution. Check it out for yourself.
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Wait. Hang on. Are you now saying that there ARE Christians who accept evolution? You are contradicting yourself? And they accept evolution because (wait for this…) they believed it was true?
 
Vonsalza said:
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Techno2000:
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Vonsalza:
Plenty of theist evolutionists are happy to say that God designed evolution to work in a way that didn’t require His continual intervention and then sent the “ball” rolling.
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Too bad the fossil record doesn’t show that.
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Which I guess means that a fossil proves divine intervention?

Which one? That new one-meter tall “T-Rex” they discovered that explains a 70 million year gap in the evolution of tyrannosaurs?
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Who explained it… bias evolutionist ?
 
Techno2000 said:
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Vonsalza:
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Techno2000:
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Vonsalza:
Plenty of theist evolutionists are happy to say that God designed evolution to work in a way that didn’t require His continual intervention and then sent the “ball” rolling.
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Too bad the fossil record doesn’t show that.
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Which I guess means that a fossil proves divine intervention?

Which one? That new one-meter tall “T-Rex” they discovered that explains a 70 million year gap in the evolution of tyrannosaurs?
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Who explained it… bias evolutionist ?
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Just sayin’ man.

You’re all “where are the transitional species?!?”

I’m like “Oh, like this one?”

Then you’re all “The people who discovered it believe in science!”

Well… Yes… And that’s a problem?

I’ll be frank, Tech. You may not be open to reason. Have you ever considered that?
 
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Vonsalza said:
It’s because i can usually see and verify reason. Not so with faith.
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This is a point of agreement.

Human reason though, is the weak link. Faulty reasoning of observations leads to faulty conclusions and a faulty worldview.

You can see for yourself how both sides have agreed to the fact DNA shows a very strong design signal. You can see how @Bradskii then went on to attack the ID case at Dover and it seems in good conscience is now relying on the judgement of a judge. Seems to be a flawed human reasoning issue.
 
I would agree. Dawkins says living things “appear” to be designed. The evidence shows that they are designed. That is the point.
 
Bradskii said:
Wait. Hang on. Are you now saying that there ARE Christians who accept evolution? You are contradicting yourself?
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I never claimed there weren’t. There are plenty who self identify as such here. Settle down and stay focused on the argument not trying to entrap people. You can do better.
 
buffalo said:
Human reason though, is the weak link. Faulty reasoning of observations leads to faulty conclusions and a faulty worldview.
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You may not want to see this, but for the sake of intellectual honesty, I’m delivering it anyway;

This is why scientific inquiry is peer reviewed. If you want to make a credible scientific claim, you’ve got to throw it out there where all the other scientists who might be jealous of your potential fame from discovery get their crack at tearing you apart.

If your thesis endures, it gets tentatively added to the corpus of scientific research than can be credibly cited.

Note: tentatively. All theories are eternally subject to revision at any time.

The result of this is a body of information that can bear a lot of weight.
 
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