Why you should think that the Natural-Evolution of species is true

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Hugh_Farey said:
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Bradskii:
You seem to be failing miserably in answering a simple question: Does ‘natural’ imply no (name removed by moderator)ut from God?
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Not sure who the “you” is in the sentence above. Probably buffalo, who is so entangled in his own arguments that he can’t see his way out of them at all.

I do wish proper Creationists were capable of more consistent thinking; although, given that they have no need of science, reason or logic, I suppose that’s an unreasonable desire on my part. But their God seems so petty, compared to mine (or even, if you were ever to personify your own prime mover, to yours). What a pity.
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It was indeed directed (yet again) to Buffalo. I guess the simplest questions are sometimes the most difficult to answer because they invariably point in a direction the respondee wishes not to go.
 
Oh, true. Aloysium is a shining exception to the general creationist trend!
 
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rossum said:
You talk about “odds”. Where are your mathematical calculations of those odds? Do not forget to include the effects of chemistry in your calculations.

Without showing your calculations, all you have is personal opinion, which does not go very far in a science discussion.

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Yes, I talk about odds often. You have no odds rebuttal to show how easy it is for life to start and develop.
 
Bradskii said:
You seem to be failing miserably in answering a simple question: Does ‘natural’ (name removed by moderator)ly no (name removed by moderator)ut from God?
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From man’s ability to detect it or from God’s?
 
buffalo said:
Yes, I talk about odds often. You have no odds rebuttal to show how easy it is for life to start and develop.
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Rebuttal? What is there to rebut? We have observed life on the one planet we can observe closely. That is odds of 1 in 1 or 100%.

That is more calculation than you have shown.

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Bradskii said:
She will show you basic life and explain how it will evolve, under natural laws, to more complex forms
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And, amazingly, atheists and assorted gullible folks will actually believe her! :roll_eyes:
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Oh no, you poor thing - as if you didn’t have enough problems, you’ve also become infected by that most appalling brain-eating virus … feminism! 😱
But you think you know better. Because you are a fundamentalist and all this nonsense of natural processes runs counter to your beliefs. You DEMAND that God could not have acted in a way to which all evidence points. You DEMAND that ancient words are to be taken literally. You DEMAND that we reject science and embrace literalism and treat the word of God as only you can be allowed to interpret it.
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You are getting all worked up for nothing - as a mature-age atheist, you should have worked out by now that life is meaningless, and so what one’s believes is also meaningless. Therefore believing in evolution is as meaningless as believing in fairies. So why care about what other people believe? … just try enjoy the time you have left alive.
 
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Hugh_Farey said:
To most evolutionists, abiogenesis, UCD, and LUCA are very much alive and the subject of much research.
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Biology for Space Cadets … Speaking of which, billions of dollars are being spent on looking for Little Green Men on other planets. 😂
 
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Hugh_Farey said:
The first few words are true, but then follows a garbled explication of complete misunderstanding.
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How dare you! 😡
Life would be so much simpler for you both if all evolutionists were atheists, wouldn’t it? But they’re not. And those who triumph the glories of God in evolution do not creep around the edges of their faith, they trumpet it. God is mocked by the puny rejection of his craft displayed by those who hide their faces from the blinding light of his reason, and God is exalted by the discovery of every fossil tooth and strand of DNA. That’s why evolutionists, atheist or not, are full of joy and exhilaration, while Creationists hide in the shadows of bitterness, spitting bitterness in the form of sour jokes and snide misrepresentation.
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Your eloquent but devastating words have crushed my fragile, egg-shell mind. 🔨:facepunch: 😱
God is exalted by the discovery of every fossil tooth
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Well said, old chap. God was certainly exalted by “Nebraska Man”, who was created out of one widdle pig’s tooth! (This was evolution’s answer to Eve being created from Adam’s rib - except better and much more scientific.)
 
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Bradskii said:
So anything that we can describe as ‘natural’ has zero (name removed by moderator)ut from God. That’s quite a corner you have painted yourself into.
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On the contrary, Grasshopper 🐿️, everything ‘natural’ comes from God. So there is no paint and no corner. You will understand this concept when you are older.🐣

(🐿️ Sorry, I didn’t have a grasshopper icon, so I used a squirrel instead, coz squirrels evolved from grasshoppers.)
 
Hugh_Farey said:
. Throughout the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries the evidence gradually led to the theory, which was not really assumed correct until long after Darwin had published his ‘imperfect abstract’.
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That time-frame makes perfect sense - today’s mass acceptance of evolution is a direct result of the spirit of atheism that swallowed most of the intellectual class in the wake of the (so-called) Enlightenment.

Theories of biological evolution have been in existence for at least 2500 years. So Satan has been peddling this lie for a long, long time.
 
rossum said:
You talk about “odds”. Where are your mathematical calculations of those odds?
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I am 100% certain that I will not be struck by lightning every day for a year. Do I have to provide mathematical calculations in order for you to believe me?

Furthermore, since you have requested a mathematical calculation, what is your mathematical cut-off point between possible and impossible?
 
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IWantGod said:
This is just a commonsense argument.

If God created species, then apart from animals that have gone extinct, all the animals that exist today should be no different from when they were first created; there should be no new species. So it should be true that the Platypus has always existed for as long as there have been animals. From the moment animals existed they ought to be identical to the animals that live today. The evidence does not bare out that cl;aim.

So while one might not want to take evolution as fact, i think one can think that it is the most likely origin of species when compared to the biblical 7 day creation explanation…
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God knew EVERYTHING before the foundation of the world/universe from beginning to the end. No surprises.
No situation where God says oh shoot I didn’t see THAT one coming, well, time for plan B, C. D etc etc .

Science can’t eliminate God although they try…mightily

Evolution is OK, just as long as God is at the source. 😎 and THAT is where science takes stage left.
 
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rossum said:
Thank you for displaying once again your lack of relevant scientific knowledge. See The Great Oxygenation event 3.
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Thanks for the link, but it has nothing to do with my comment, which clearly relates to the silly, childish claim that photosynthesis evolved.
 
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