Why you should think that the Natural-Evolution of species is true

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rossum said:
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Wow! … or you lose your job…
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Sounds like a Bible College firing anyone who does not conform to the mandated Bible interpretation.
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Atreju said:
If plants that were more edible to humans were more likely to reproduce, then we would see asparagus plants become more edible over generations. And lo and behold, modern asparagus is much more edible than wild archaic asparagus!
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I’m talking about asparagus that lived so-called millions of years ago, not any type of manmade crossbreed . And this question goes for the other millons of flowers and vegetables species.
 
Rubee said:
In addition, we cannot believe that Adam or any of us were accidental. And if you grant that, then the whole “random evolution” thing goes out the window. You must at least grant that when God made the universe, he made it so that Adam would exist, and all of his progeny after him. And if you do, then whichever way he did it, God indeed made it so that Adam would be the result no matter what. That’s not “optional”. That’s a result directly willed and ensured by God.
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Exactly. …
 
Bradskii said:
Bias is filtered out by peer review. And those who promote ID are actively promoting creationism. That’s not bias. That a raison d’etre.
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You have nailed the exact reason why peer-review is being reformulated. Bias.
 
“Random” in this context has more to do with our information than the fundamental physics of what is happening. All of the chemical and physical processes involved in evolution are deterministic at the most fundamental level. “Random” is used in the same way that a dice roll is “random”, even though with perfect information, we could in principle perfectly calculate and predict which side would come up every time.
 
I didn’t say anything about crossbreeding. And mechanically, human selection is the same as natural selection.

I’m amazed you’re still struggling with this concept.
 
Intelligent selection happens quickly and is artificial selection, as opposed to natural selection.
 
Atreju said:
I didn’t say anything about crossbreeding. And mechanically, human selection is the same as natural selection.

I’m amazed you’re still struggling with this concept.
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If plants that were more edible to humans were more likely to reproduce, then we would see asparagus plants become more edible over generations.

Way too vague,how exactly would all this works?
 
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Way too vague,how exactly would all this works?
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Agriculture. How many maize plants do humans plant each year? Look up “Artificial Selection”.
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No, I’m talking about wild asparagus . What kind of environmental conditions would come along to cause a plant to start to producing “fit”’ offspring that would eventually morph and become the wild asparagus plant ?
 
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It can be easy to get caught up in the argument. Remember to take enough time to not go insane.

In the meantime, you can see how beautiful and cool some of nature is instead of arguing over it. Look up romanesco broccoli when you get the chance. It’s very neat and cool!
 
Here is some contributions Darwin has made to society. “You will know them by their fruits”

The Darwin Effect

Dr. Miklos Nyiszli, an imprisoned doctor in the Auschwitz camp, wrote that Nazi doctors hoped studying twins would solve the problem of faster reproduction of superior races. Nazis hoped to have each German mother bear as many twins as possible. What Darwin influenced went far beyond the Nazi death camps:
  • Shocking political, social, and scientific legacies of Darwin and his family
  • Disturbing disclosure of how over 45 million Christians were killed in the 20th century because of their faith
  • Revealing and layman-friendly presentation.
This book is the result of 30 years of research and study carefully documenting the common destructive threads that tie some of history’s most murderous dictators, uncaring capitalists, and aggressive social activists to the flawed concepts of Charles Darwin in an effort to change the world - and how they succeeded. The extermination of races considered “lower” than others, the profound lack of empathy for less-advanced cultures, the corrupted atheistic justifications for taking the lives of millions - all done to advance the agendas of social Darwinism at work in the world today. More than mere theoretical discussions, we have seen the horrifying evidence of the practical results when applying these destructive and misleading concepts to society in the last 100 years!

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