Why you should think that the Natural-Evolution of species is true

  • Thread starter Thread starter IWantGod
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
Bradskii said:
You’re obviously not a big fan of knowing why something works to enable the process to be improved as opposed to just knowing that somehow it just does.

A few of us realise that. It’s just that some of us have difficulty in understanding it.
Click to expand...
I think it may be important to remind ourselves that central to this discussion is whether or not the ToE provides a satisfactory explanation as to how things work and why they work.

It is my opinion that this knowledge is key to improving how we do things. That’s why I am participating in this discussion.

Creationism provides a much better, definitely more realistic understanding of life, how it came to be as it is today, and our role within the overall scheme of things. Of course, the basic science, that includes physics, chemistry, genetics and so forth, informs us of how to carry out our mandate.
 
Last edited:
Bradskii said:
You’re obviously not a big fan of knowing why something works to enable the process to be improved as opposed to just knowing that somehow it just does.
Click to expand...
What kind of environmental conditions would cause a plant to start to producing offspring that would gradually changed it into becoming an asparagus plant ?
 
Last edited:
Techno2000 said:
40.png
Bradskii:
You’re obviously not a big fan of knowing why something works to enable the process to be improved as opposed to just knowing that somehow it just does.
Click to expand...
What kind of environmental conditions would cause a plant to start to producing offspring that would gradually changed it into becoming an asparagus plant ?
Click to expand...
Conditions where the present qualities of asparagus would make it more fit for survival in its environment than its ancestors, obviously.

Reading up on it a bit, it seems that asparagus is one of those odd plants that are sexually dimorphic (there are males and females) and it comes out of south Africa.

So if you were wanting to track the evolution of asparagus, you’d start there.
 
Last edited:
Aloysium said:
40.png
Bradskii:
You’re obviously not a big fan of knowing why something works to enable the process to be improved as opposed to just knowing that somehow it just does.

A few of us realise that. It’s just that some of us have difficulty in understanding it.
Click to expand...
I think it may be important to remind ourselves that central to this discussion is whether or not the ToE provides a satisfactory explanation as to how things work and why they work.
Click to expand...
Obviously it does. No doubt you have read previous posts on the number of people using it in various enterprises. They wouldn’t be doing that if it didn’t explain how things worked and why.
 
Techno2000 said:
40.png
Bradskii:
You’re obviously not a big fan of knowing why something works to enable the process to be improved as opposed to just knowing that somehow it just does.
Click to expand...
What kind of environmental conditions would cause a plant to start to producing offspring that would gradually changed it into becoming an asparagus plant ?
Click to expand...
No idea, Tecno. I’m afraid that I have to admit that I skipped biology the day that they did the evolution of asparagus officinalis.
 
Techno2000 said:
Vague as always…
Vague…
Click to expand...
…Your question was “What kind of environmental conditions would cause a plant to start to producing offspring that would gradually changed it into becoming an asparagus plant?”

So from literally any plant into asparagus…

And I’m vague?
 
Animal breeding and plant selection are not examples of evolution. They are examples of intelligent selection and experimentation. If I tried to graft a branch from a fruit tree onto the wrong type of tree, it would wither and die. Animal breeding only works when the internal mechanisms are compatible. There are two birds in the United States that look identical but they can’t breed. One lives on the east coast, the other on the west.

Evolution is assigning a conclusion before all the facts are in. When trying to cover millions of years, a tiny error in interpretation turns into a very large error.
 
Last edited:
If the plants or animals are incompatible then nothing happens. That’s nothing like tiny changes over time, that’s human intervention.
 
If plants that were more edible to humans were more likely to reproduce, then we would see asparagus plants become more edible over generations. And lo and behold, modern asparagus is much more edible than wild archaic asparagus!
 
buffalo said:
40.png
Bradskii:
Then you are discussing religion. Not science.
Click to expand...
Information from outside the box is still information and can inform our science as well as our reasoned conclusions.
Click to expand...
Please feel free to believe that (just don’t let anyone catch you trying to teach it in a science class).
 
“[E]volution works without either plan or purpose — Evolution is random and undirected.”
(Biology, by Kenneth R. Miller & Joseph S. Levine (1st ed., Prentice Hall, 1991), pg. 658; (3rd ed., Prentice Hall, 1995), pg. 658; (4th ed., Prentice Hall, 1998), pg. 658; emphasis in original.)
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top