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edwest211
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Bradskii has spoken 
Why you should think that the Natural-Evolution of species is true
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Bradskii
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And there you are, @Paddy1989. Hereās one thatās just turned up to prove the point. Remember I said they would refuse to admit to claiming the world is thousands of years old? Just watch the response to this question:Bradskii has spoken
Morning, Ed. Hey, any decision yet as to whether you are going to tell us how old the planet is?
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Edgar
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Iām not a YEC.
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IWantGod
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Okay. Well, if you donāt mind, can you please tell us what you are? Since you obviously think that evolution is part of a grand design to deceive people.
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Edgar
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I accept the same fossil record and long-ages as an evolutionist, but I donāt believe the history of life on earth can be explained with science. The theory of evolution is accepted as the best scientific explanation, but the atheist-dominated scientific community preaches Darwinian evolution as a fact, thus doing the will of their master, the devil. Anyone who disagrees is denounced as either an idiot or a religious lunatic.
All hail the great false god of evolution, whose aim is to undermine belief in a Creator.
All hail the great false god of evolution, whose aim is to undermine belief in a Creator.
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Techno2000
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Is that you Glark ?
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IWantGod
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And so is the big bang theory. We canāt go back in time to confirm it as indisputable fact, but all the evidence points to it as being the most likeliest truth. The same is true for evolution. We canāt watch a 3 billion year long video, but all the evidence, the data, points to evolution as making the best sense, and so scientifically speaking itās the most likeliest truth.
It is true in so far as it makes the best sense of the evidence. But that is not the same thing as being indisputable fact, and at the same time it is not unreasonable or wrong to say that it is true.
The best argument that a person can give to counter the evidence is to argue that in principle biological systems are too complex to be the natural result of physical laws. But we do not know that this is in fact true, and we have examples of natural phenomena that are seemingly too complex to happen naturally but do so anyway. Nobody is crying intelligent design when it comes to those things. So there is no reason to count this against the theory of evolution.
The real reason people feel so slighted about evolution is because they think it has the potential of either confirming atheism or influencing in favour of that worldview. Itās a religious or theological concern. But that concern has nothing to do we science and cannot be combated with science.
What do you mean by fact? And if evolution is fact, what would be the problem? And if somebody thinks it is fact (mistaken or not), why does it mean that they are doing the will of the devil for saying that it is fact? What has the devil got to do with evolution? What has atheism got to do with evolution for that matter?
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IWantGod
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It was never the aim of evolution to undermine belief in a creator. What has lead you to think that? It canāt possibly be just the fact that many scientists are atheists. If thatās the case you should reject all scientific theories. But that would be silly.
Do you have a phobia towards atheism?
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PetraG
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A parrot can say āpolitical correctness is killing America.ā
(Or a salesman who knows enough to repeat any pitch that sellsā¦)
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Bradskii
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Indeed. Voting for cheap sound bits is getting us into an awful lot of problems.Edgar:
A parrot can say āpolitical correctness is killing America.ā
(Or a salesman who knows enough to repeat any pitch that sellsā¦)
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crai7
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āSpeciesā is near the bottom of the taxonomic hierarchy (i.e. hair splitting and often trivial distinctions are made). Even evolutionist Ernst Mayr suggested going higher up - to the genus level when talking about macro evolution; and Iām sure arguments could be made for going even higher. The Iris flower is a good example of how trivial the distinctions can be. Botanists decided there are hundreds of species of Iris flower; yet many āspeciesā can inter-breed with each other and have very minor differences. Thatās the problem with using techniques - such as cluster analysis - that allow the analyst to determine the end result - i.e. number of clusters (species) is decided in advance. Additionally, consider that even after deciding on the number of species, one biologist might reach an entirely different conclusion in terms of which specimens belong in which cluster; depending on what physical (phenotype) traits or genetic (genotype) loci they choose to include in their measurements, and how they specify the cluster analysis algorithm.
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Aloysium
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Itās wrong, plain and simple.
Modern science is good at manipulating matter.
It can tell us something about:
- what matter is, by describing the relationships that exist between material things, such as time, space, mass, charge, etc.
- the relationships that exist between the chemicals which constitute the basic material form of living things, the cell.
- the organization of specialized cells into tissues, and in turn, organ systems that work together in multicellular creatures to enable the organism to participate, at every level of interaction, from that defined by physics, chemistry and the behavioural sciences.
- animal behaviour as it pertains to the relationships between creatures of the same and other species, as well as their environment as a whole.
- our psychological and sociological structures.
The common source of all life is not one, or a few ancient cells, but God Himself, who brings this all into being, here and at the beginning of time.
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PetraG
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How do you know that? What is your better explanation for the data used to support it?
What do you base that on? I thought science couldnāt tell you anything about the past. Youāre getting that out of Genesis? Color me skeptical.
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IWantGod
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So basically you are saying that treating people with respect is killing america? Wowā¦
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buffalo
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James Tour: The Mystery of the Origin of Life
Dr. Tour is one of the worldās top synthetic organic chemists. He has authored 680 scientific publications and holds more than 120 patents (here is a partial list). In 2014, Thomson Reuters named him one of āThe Worldās Most Influential Scientific Minds,ā and in 2018 Clarivate Analytics recognized him as one of the worldās most highly cited researchers. Tour is also fearless. He joined more than a thousand other scientists in signing the āScientific Dissent from Darwinism.ā More recently, he has become a thorn in the side of the origin of life research community, offering blunt assessments of the current state of origin of life research.
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edwest211
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No one should accept nonsense. The Handbook of Political Correctness for All US Citizens does not exist.
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IWantGod
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What is political correctness, because i thought it was about treating people with respect.
The idea that this is killing america is a joke.
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edwest211
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āpolitical correctnessā is an invention. An attempt, not to encourage respect, but to encourage those who did not know it at all to follow the dictates of those who invented and promoted it.
If people want to show respect in general, they should follow time-tested rules.
If people want to show respect in general, they should follow time-tested rules.
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Bradskii
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No rock and roll. No āmodern fashionā. No sex. No contraception. Respect authority. Donāt buck the system. No entertainment except the Dick Van Dyke show. Andā¦thereās more. But you get the idea.
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buffalo
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Does this include respecting ALL behavioral choices?
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