Why you should think that the Natural-Evolution of species is true

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buffalo said:
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LeafByNiggle:
"I don’t see… "
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Because you do not have. No one has shown the vast number of minute steps to get to the ATP synthase motor for example. We just know it had to be evolution that didddit. If you did you would produce. Another strike…
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No, I’m afraid that is strike two for you, as you continue to prove my point.
 
buffalo said:
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Bradskii:
'OK guys, we just need to revise what we learnt last week before we move on. So hands up - who can remember the response we must always use when someone points out an obvious flaw in the arguments we use against those who reject Intelligent Design? Anyone?
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Understanding the designers intent is well understood even in even human designs. Usually one is able to ask the designer. Ask an electronics designer why he uses a off the shelf standard counter with more features than he needs rather than a more specific one in his computer design.
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‘And class, how do we respond when someone points out an obvious flaw in what we describe as being Intelligently Designed?’

‘Sir, sir!’

‘Yes,Buffalo?’

'Sir, we say ‘It’s all down to the Fall’.

'Well done lad. So class, remember the Three Main Articles Of Defence:
First: ‘We weren’t there’.
Second: ‘Who can know the mind of God’.
And third: ‘It’s all because of the fall!’

And for homework I want you to practice your cutting and pasting skills from the Creationist sites listed in the class notes with specific regard to the proposal “There Are No Intermediate Fossils”.

‘Class dismissed’.
 
buffalo said:
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LeafByNiggle:
No, I’m afraid that is strike two for you, as you continue to prove my point.
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You have not produced them.
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You should try here: The bacterial flagellar motor and the evolution of molecular machines - Biochemist e-volution
PDFwww.biochemist.org › bio

It might take you a while to read (one assumes that you must). But if there’s a specific point within the article that you disagree with, then cut and paste the relevant section (you’re so good at that!) and we can all discuss it.
 
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I have never ever saw a paper that showed the complete proven evo pathway. Is your claim this one will?

And I asked about ATP synthase motor. Will this paper address it?
 
buffalo said:
However, one must know the mind of the designer and you do not, therefore you are not qualified to criticize the design.
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However, one must know the mind of the designer and you do not, therefore you are not qualified to praise the design.

rossum
 
LeafByNiggle said:
I don’t know about the rest of you, but that carefully-reasoned argument by buffalo sure won me over!
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It should have. Did you read what he actually posted?

No. It’s true by any definition of species. (any? Really? Ridiculous)
 
It had to have happened this way. Pope Benedict said it is impossible to conduct experiments in a controlled environment to prove or disprove the theory. He’s obviously right.
 
rossum said:
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Techno2000:
So, I guess that blow hole thingy just kinda slowly formed by trial and error. :roll_eyes:
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You guess wrong. A blow hole is a pair of nostrils. We have a sequence of fossils showing the nostrils moving from the front of the snout to the top of the head.

rossum
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So , about every 1000 years it’s nose would move backwards about 1/4 inch. 🤔
 
buffalo said:
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I have never ever saw a paper that showed the complete proven evo pathway. Is your claim this one will?

And I asked about ATP synthase motor. Will this paper address it?
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I know this is difficult for you to understand, but if you are given an answer to one of your questions then you are going to need to read it.

Please let us all know if there is anything within it which you specifically disagree. I’ll be here when you get back. No need to rush. Take your time.
 
edwest211 said:
It had to have happened this way. Pope Benedict said it is impossible to conduct experiments in a controlled environment to prove or disprove the theory. He’s obviously right.
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Question 1: Please tick one of the boxes as being the correct answer.

How many generations is it impossible to drag into the laboratory to test evolution?
  1. All of them.
  2. 384
  3. 10,000
  4. Who can know the mind of God.
 
rossum said:
Have you any idea how much information there is in an omniscient entity?
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The same amount that is the universe, from its beginning to its end - pretty amazing. But, the universe does exist even though the information is pretty much infinite. And every moment is known for all eternity.
 
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