Widely accepted evidence of Jesus

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is there any that exist or they all skeptical evidences like i know the shroud is not widely accepted as evidence of Jesus.

this would need to be evidence that could convince an atheist that Jesus existed
NT Wright said that today no serious scholar doubts that Jesus really existed (at least not more than literally one or two). The last guy to question that was someone who decided the whole “Jesus thing” was about some cult of the sacred mushroom.

The best evidence is the gospels and Paul’s letters, which, when not held to a ridiculous double standard prove Jesus existence as surely as any ancient documents prove the existence of any ancient person.

Other ancient writers support it as well. Tacitus, Josephus, Pliny and other ancient writers, but Paul’s letters and the gospels are the best sources. Think of it, Paul wrote his letter to Corinthians around 50 AD, only 20 years after Jesus’ death. In it he talks about Jesus having lived. Writing this at a time when all the apostles were still alive, it’s hard to see how he could have been mistaken about this.

Haha, I didn’t realize this thread had been dragged up from a while ago.
 
It seems to me that to prove the existence of anything to some, there unfortunately requires documentation. The gospels do it for believers, but unbelievers think these documents have been embellished by their writers to proove their own beliefs. Roman documentation would be more relevent to an atheist. This exists through more than Pliny. Then there is the unstantuated evidence of a holy man walking in India (Issa) whose discription mirrors Jesus and who was reported as doing miracles similar to Jesus and with similar philosophy and preachings coming from a mediterreanean country and returned at the age of 30 only to be crucified by the Romans in Jeruselem. This documented evidence was sighted in a monistry by an renounded world scholar in the18th centuary? and 60yrs later by another renouned personage. Although this has not been sanctioned as the ‘lost years’ of Jesus by the Catholic Church or by any other christian church or by anyone for that matter, The fact that an official investigation hasn’t been lodged marks a strange disinterest. Philosphical question:- if Issa is in truth Jesus’ lost years, what other documentation proving the historical Jesus could there be out there in areas deemed ‘off limits’ to organized religious sensibilities? I personally believe the REAL Jesus comes to ones HEART and NOT his mind leaving ‘physical evidence’ irrelavent and at best, limiting.
 
I wonder whether you had the opportunity of studying the other posts in this thread.For Atheists there is also the Historical evidence provided by Historian Flavius Josephus in his work.Flavius was not a Christian but records Jesus’s existance as a Holy Man perhaps he says more than a man.God Bless You.
 
When we look a little deeper at the tomb we find many Saints who where exumed after a number of years and there bodys were still in tack, the evidence is clear and numerous one example is Padre Pio and the fatima children when you say why one and not another stop and think who is behind all this!!!
Let us believe that when we are layed in the tomb we are not alone but with the Lord who loves us.
 
(1) The only physical description of Jesus that does exist is from a copy of a letter from the Roman consul Lentulus to the Roman Emperor Tiberius. This document was discovered in a Monastery with copies of other ancient documents. According to the copy of the letter, the original letter from the consul was dated to the 12 year of the reign of the Emperor Tiberius. Scholars have historical verification that a certain Roman consul named Lentulus was in Judea at the time of Jesus’ trial and crucifixion. His influential family is mentioned by the Jewish historian Josephus in his book Antiquities of the Jews. Scholars are divided, however, as to the authenticity of the letter. Lentulus’ letter is presented an official report to the Emperor Tiberius. In his letter Lentulus describes the condemned man named Jesus of Nazareth as having: a noble and lively face, with fair and slightly wavy hair; black and strongly curving eyebrows, intense penetrating blue eyes and an expression of wondrous grace. His nose is rather long. His beard is almost blonde, although not very long. His hair is quite long, and has never seen a pair of scissors…His neck is slightly inclined, so that he never appears to be bitter or arrogant. His tanned face is the color of ripe corn and well proportioned. It gives the impression of gravity and wisdom, sweetness and good, and is completely lacking in any sign of anger. (Holy Land Magazine, Franciscan Holy Land Press, Spring 1998). Whatever information Tiberius received concerning the strange progress of events concerning the death of this Jew, he was shaken enough to present a shocking suggestion to the Roman Senate. There is some historical evidence to support the claim that Tiberius was so convinced of Jesus’ resurrection from the dead that he attempted to have Him declared a “god”, but the Roman Senate refused to approve this provincial Jew’s admission to the Roman pantheon of gods.The following was taken from a manuscript in the possession of Lord Kelly, and in his library, and was copied from an original letter of Publius Lentullus at Rome. It being the usual custom of Roman Governors to advertise the Senate and people of such material things as happened in their provinces in the days of Tiberius Caesar, Publius Lentullus, President of Judea, wrote the following epistle to the Senate concerning the Nazarene called Jesus.

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“There appeared in these our days a man, of the Jewish Nation, of great virtue, named Yeshua [Jesus], who is yet living among us, and of the Gentiles is accepted for a Prophet of truth, but His own disciples call Him the Son of God- He raiseth the dead and cureth all manner of diseases. A man of stature somewhat tall, and comely, with very reverent countenance, such as the beholders may both love and fear, his hair of (the colour of) the chestnut, full ripe, plain to His ears, whence downwards it is more orient and curling and wavering about His shoulders. In the midst of His head is a seam or partition in His hair, after the manner of the Nazarenes. His forehead plain and very delicate; His face without spot or wrinkle, beautified with a lovely red; His nose and mouth so formed as nothing can be reprehended; His beard thickish, in colour like His hair, not very long, but forked; His look innocent and mature; His eyes grey, clear, and quick- In reproving hypocrisy He is terrible; in admonishing, courteous and fair spoken; pleasant in conversation, mixed with gravity. It cannot be remembered that any have seen Him Laugh, but many have seen Him Weep. In proportion of body, most excellent; His hands and arms delicate to behold. In speaking, very temperate, modest, and wise. A man, for His singular beauty, surpassing the children of men”

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This is a reprinting of a letter from Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar describing the physical appearance of Jesus. Copies are in the Congressional Library in Washington, D.C.

TO TIBERIUS CAESAR:

A young man appeared in Galilee preaching with humble unction, a new law in the Name of the God that had sent Him. At first I was apprehensive that His design was to stir up the people against the Romans, but my fears were soon dispelled. Jesus of Nazareth spoke rather as a friend of the Romans than of the Jews. One day I observed in the midst of a group of people a young man who was leaning against a tree, calmly addressing the multitude. I was told it was Jesus. This I could easily have suspected so great was the difference between Him and those who were listening to Him. His golden colored hair and beard gave to his appearance a celestial aspect. He appeared to be about 30 years of age. Never have I seen a sweeter or more serene countenance. What a contrast between Him and His bearers with their black beards and tawny complexions! Unwilling to interrupt Him by my presence, I continued my walk but signified to my secretary to join the group and listen. Later, my secretary reported that never had he seen in the works of all the philosophers anything that compared to the teachings of Jesus. He told me that Jesus was neither seditious nor rebellious, so we extended to Him our protection. He was at liberty to act, to speak, to assemble and to address the people. This unlimited freedom provoked the Jews – not the poor but the rich and powerful.
 
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