Widower uncle in a funk

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Its been a little more than 2 years since my super aunt passed after a bout with cancer. My uncle and her were a very close couple and did literally everything together. He is about 65 now.

Now dear uncle hasn’t really been able to get back in the saddle. He’s not bitter and cold but then again there also isn’t any detectable joy in his life either. This is 180 degrees different than how things were before the sickness invaded. They were ideally happy. He’s retired and set perfectly fine financially, his kids are great, grandkids are great, no good reason I can see from the outside to mourn this long.

Of course we are all paralyzed with the unknown. Is there anything we can/should/ought to do or not do besides love him the way he is? The voice of experience would be awesome to hear.
 
They seemed to have been soulmated, which means he may never get over her death. He may never recover until he, too, dies and is reunited with his own soul’s breath. If she was everything to him, then he has nothing left in this world. I, for example, would simply wait for death if my wife died before me. She is my everything, my breath and my life, my own soul’s love. Of course I love my six children, but if they were grown and gone and my duty to them done, then I’d just as soon have my death come sooner than later–just get on with it–so that I could be reunited with the other half of my soul in our secret garden in Heaven.

Maybe your uncle feels this way, too?
 
I don’t think there is much you can or should do besides be there for him. Everyone grieves in his or her own way.

Two of my aunts are widows and I don’t see them remarrying, but another one of my aunts just got engaged after 4 years of widowhood.

Then there is my uncle who started dating a friend of my aunt’s (who lost her husband to cancer) a few short months after my aunt passed away and seems happy, but there will always be something missing and he is forever changed.

By the way, all lost their spouses in their early to mid 50s from cancer.
 
It can be difficult for men because they typically don’t have the same sort of support network that women have. My wife got very sick over a year ago, and it was life threatening. She’s better now, thank God. But I realized at that time that if anything happened to her, I would have no one. I would essentially be alone in the world. Men typically put everything they have into their families. A relationship with the children is not the same as a relationship with one’s spouse. They have their own lives when they are adults. A man at 65 will have a slim chance of finding a marriageable Catholic woman close to his age to establish a new relationship with. If he did everything with her and she’s gone, that leaves him with no one to do anything with, no real social network to fall back on. It’s no wonder he’s in a funk. I don’t have any suggestions but prayer.

I think that widowed men share a lot in common with orphans on a social level. They may be economically secure, but that’s not everything.
 
It has been my experience that some men never get over the loss of a loved one. I am not sure what you mean by ‘he is not able to get back in the saddle’. Does that mean he spends a lot of time alone? If your uncle is an introvert that is not a bad thing.

The mere fact he is not bitter and cold speaks volumes in a positive way. What makes you think there is no detectable joy in his life? Maybe there is you just don’t see it.

And honestly, mourning 2 years is NOT a long time.

Angie
 
What makes you think there is no detectable joy in his life? Maybe there is you just don’t see it.
Angie
He pretty much says so, though not that directly. I don’t necessarily mean he would be looking to remarry. I guess I’ve always seen being single as its own vocation even without consecration. He could easily expect another 20 year “life” without my aunt. We would just like him to get up in the morning and seize the day.
 
He pretty much says so, though not that directly. I don’t necessarily mean he would be looking to remarry. I guess I’ve always seen being single as its own vocation even without consecration. He could easily expect another 20 year “life” without my aunt. We would just like him to get up in the morning and seize the day.
Maybe some grief counseling? Getting involved in a hobby, or an older adults group of some sort?

The thing is though, are you looking for him to be too much like he was when his wife was alive? Because that may never happen. He’s been permanently altered/changed. He’s not going to be exactly like he was before your aunt died. And grieving a spouse can take much longer than anyone thinks it should. My dad has been gone now for 10 years, it took my mom at least two years to get into a routine where she started to feel a sense of contentment and peace again. Now, she’s got a good social support group and activities to keep her busy.

Has he hit the stage yet where he can talk about his wife without breaking down? I knew my mom had turned the corner when she and I started to trade stories about some of the antics my dad would get into and could laugh.
 
A man at 65 will have a slim chance of finding a marriageable Catholic woman close to his age to establish a new relationship with.
I’m close to 60 and I don’t agree with this at all. There are many many widowed Catholic women in in this age group – many more women than men in fact.

He could quite easily find a companion is that’s what he wanted right now. But sometimes the grieving never ends and the will to find a companion just isn’t there.

I hope your uncle finds peace of mind and acceptance eventually.
 
I was widowed at 33, and believe me, 2 years is nothing when it comes to mourning. Of course, there are people who are re-married within 2 months…others never do. In the end, its just how each person deals with and processes the loss. Just because you are done mourning and want him to move on and be happy again doesn’t mean that it is right for him.

I volunteer on a young widows/widowers website, and the most frustrating thing most realize that at about the 1 year mark, everybody BUT the widow/er thinks the pain and loneliness magically is gone. That somehow, the widow/er should just suddenly “be over it”. Much easier said than done. In fact, its almost a surety that the SECOND year is the most painful, because after that first year full of “firsts” (first anniversary without them, first birthday without them, first Christmas, etc. and so forth), everybody else around you puts it behind them and you are left completely on your own, with nobody understanding how truly alone you feel.

I lost my wife after just 9 years of marriage, think how much more difficult it is for somebody who was together for 3-4 decades. If he is living a life “sorry for himself” or throwing a lifelong pity party now, well…maybe its time to start calling him out for it. However, he may be perfectly content with where his life is now. I know that for the first 3-4 years after my wife passed, I was completely content with being alone the rest of my life…that I was fortunate to have been given the gift of her love. I was fine with that and set in my ways to stay that way. Of course, the contentedness didn’t make it there until I’d thrown about 2-3 years away throwing a self-destructive pity party of my own!!!

You want him to be happy, that is fine and well intentioned. However, just remember that what you view as lonely and sad, may just be fine with him. Start asking, start talking, I know that for a long time I just wanted somebody to have the courage to ask me some questions like that so I could get a load off my mind. Nobody ever did. I ended up making that journey on my own and still wish somebody would have asked.
 
I was widowed suddenly at age 41 after 17 years marriage. The loss of identity at suddenly finding myself ‘alone’ was dramatic - and my husband and I had many separate interests and I would have considered myself a pretty self-sufficient woman, while also being the ‘other half’ to my husband - if that makes any sense to anyone. I had 2 pre-teen daughters and it was only having them that enabled me to get up and get on with my life.

I remember a day about 6 months after my husband’s death when I was standing on a footbridge over a boggy area of ground in a park and bleakly looking at the stretch of years ahead of me, alone and feeling so unable to face those years. I had the thought that if that little 1 foot high bridge were a really high bridge I would seriously consider throwing myself off it just to avoid the empty, lonely years I saw stretching ahead of me. Even though I knew I had those two young daughters who needed me. It was truly horrible.

I remember too, having the utmost difficulty getting out of bed in the mornings - again, only having my daughters ensured I did that. Some evenings I was too sunk in despair to even want to cook supper, having a child say, “Mum aren’t you ever going to make us supper” was what got me up to do that.

I have not shared this to get sympathy, that was nearly 20 years ago, I have found a new and different way of living my life, ways that I couldn’t even begin to envisage back then.

This below from Hirgy cannot be emphasised enough. I was seeing a Christian psychologist and he confirmed that the second year is way worse than the first for exactly the reason Hirgy states, everyone thinks you’re ‘over it’ like a dose of flu. I may be mistaken on this, but I seem to recall being told that Christians particularly find the second year much more difficult.
I volunteer on a young widows/widowers website, and the most frustrating thing most realize that at about the 1 year mark, everybody BUT the widow/er thinks the pain and loneliness magically is gone. That somehow, the widow/er should just suddenly “be over it”. Much easier said than done. In fact, its almost a surety that the SECOND year is the most painful, because after that first year full of “firsts” (first anniversary without them, first birthday without them, first Christmas, etc. and so forth), everybody else around you puts it behind them and you are left completely on your own, with nobody understanding how truly alone you feel.
One of the most helpful things I learned at the bereavement group I joined (about 5 years after my husband’s death) was the analogy of a broken bead necklace: if you were to have a bead necklace that got broken, you could collect up the beads and re-string them; however, some of the beads would probably have got lost and the beads would not be strung in exactly the same way as they were before. Life after the death of a spouse is like re-stringing that necklace: most of the parts are still there, but they get put together in a different way and some are missing.

Your uncle is most likely still grieving deeply and wondering how he will now face his life alone. Is it possible for him to join a bereavement support group, or consult with a spiritual advisor, or Christian (preferably Catholic) psychologist. Pray for him, love him and try to find ways to gently help him move into his ‘new’ life.
 
I’m close to 60 and I don’t agree with this at all. There are many many widowed Catholic women in in this age group – many more women than men in fact.

He could quite easily find a companion is that’s what he wanted right now. But sometimes the grieving never ends and the will to find a companion just isn’t there.

I hope your uncle finds peace of mind and acceptance eventually.
But finding those women when you have no social network is the problem. Again, many if not most Catholic married men put everything into their families. A spouse if often the only close friend a guy has.
 
I was widowed at 33, and believe me, 2 years is nothing when it comes to mourning. Of course, there are people who are re-married within 2 months…others never do. In the end, its just how each person deals with and processes the loss. Just because you are done mourning and want him to move on and be happy again doesn’t mean that it is right for him.

I volunteer on a young widows/widowers website, and the most frustrating thing most realize that at about the 1 year mark, everybody BUT the widow/er thinks the pain and loneliness magically is gone. That somehow, the widow/er should just suddenly “be over it”. Much easier said than done. In fact, its almost a surety that the SECOND year is the most painful, because after that first year full of “firsts” (first anniversary without them, first birthday without them, first Christmas, etc. and so forth), everybody else around you puts it behind them and you are left completely on your own, with nobody understanding how truly alone you feel.

I lost my wife after just 9 years of marriage, think how much more difficult it is for somebody who was together for 3-4 decades. If he is living a life “sorry for himself” or throwing a lifelong pity party now, well…maybe its time to start calling him out for it. However, he may be perfectly content with where his life is now. I know that for the first 3-4 years after my wife passed, I was completely content with being alone the rest of my life…that I was fortunate to have been given the gift of her love. I was fine with that and set in my ways to stay that way. Of course, the contentedness didn’t make it there until I’d thrown about 2-3 years away throwing a self-destructive pity party of my own!!!

You want him to be happy, that is fine and well intentioned. However, just remember that what you view as lonely and sad, may just be fine with him. Start asking, start talking, I know that for a long time I just wanted somebody to have the courage to ask me some questions like that so I could get a load off my mind. Nobody ever did. I ended up making that journey on my own and still wish somebody would have asked.
I was widowed at 32 and I mourned for years. I agree. There is no set time for anyone. I have heard people say that a good way to judge is look at the years of marriage and divide it in half but again, that is just a kind of general overview and not a hard and fast rule. Keep him in prayer, check on him, tell him he is loved…
 
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