Wife vs Parents?

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Please explain this to me.

You know your husband is wrong but only because he’s your husband you take his side over a mother/father or anyone for that matter when you are fully aware that they are correct in what they’re saying and he is not. And you don’t see this as participating in a lie?
I assume we are talking about opinions and not arguing about whether the sky is blue or Obama is the President.

Yes, I would stand by my wife. That could involve not taking a side against her, or actually arguing her point.

I would never embarrass my wife in front of others. I might occasionally tell her later that i disagree, in private. But, the post was about never taking a spouses side because they are always wrong. That is an attitude contrary to a successful marriage.
 
I assume we are talking about opinions and not arguing about whether the sky is blue or Obama is the President.

Yes, I would stand by my wife. That could involve not taking a side against her, or actually arguing her point.

I would never embarrass my wife in front of others. I might occasionally tell her later that i disagree, in private. But, the post was about never taking a spouses side because they are always wrong. That is an attitude contrary to a successful marriage.
“You should ALWAYS stand by your spouse whether they are right or wrong”…is what you said.

No, you should never embarrass anyone in front of others…agree.

“But, the post was about never taking a spouse’s side because they are always wrong”…where was that in any of the posts? And this is a total generalization which isn’t even logical so the premise, if that was the post which it wasn’t, is totally false.
 
Love your wife as Christ loves the Church-Ephesians 5:25. Parents are enver talked about that way so yeah, your wife comes first.
 
Sorry, not everyone has said that. You have a vow to keep and a commandment to keep. Break either and you commit a mortal sin.

Yes, a spouse is to be honored and you are one when wed but this does not mean that you neglect any and all people who have been in your life prior to your marriage. Any spouse who demands that has control issues and that is not healthy.

This is a Catholic site. Did Jesus ever abandon his Mother or his eathly father? Are we suppose to do less?
Putting something after your spouse does not mean that you are neglecting it, it just means that if it comes down to it or your spouse, your spouse is chosen. I put school, work, friends, and family all after my fiance, but none of those things are neglected.

Even from a catholic perspective one’s obligations to their parents depend heavily on their state in life or vocation. While a single person can commit all of their time and energy to their parents, a married person is to “leave and cleave”. A cloistered nun is certainly not dishonoring her parents, but she will never support them at all financially, will not be at their funerals, and will never help them with their health as they age, and never go out of her way to see or make time for them. Like a married person she has taken vows and entered in to a state of life that will have an impact on her relationship with her parents and will change how they rank as a priority.
 
So, today’s Mass readings are very related to this topic.
usccb.org/bible/readings/123012.cfm

On what the Catholic Church officially defines as the feast of the Holy Family, the first reading talks entirely about the parents and the love and honor they are entitled to.
Only the second reading has something to say about the wife-husband relationship:
“Wives, be subordinate to your husbands,
as is proper in the Lord.
Husbands, love your wives,
and avoid any bitterness toward them.”


So, and I ask this not to argue, but because I genuinely have been perplexed about this:

Are the directives here outdated and anachronistic? Do these need to be reinterpreted suitably to match the current prevalent world-view of husband and wife being entirely equal, and wife coming first?
But isn’t the Word of God supposed to be eternal and unchangeable?
 
Even from a catholic perspective one’s obligations to their parents depend heavily on their state in life or vocation. While a single person can commit all of their time and energy to their parents, a married person is to “leave and cleave”. A cloistered nun is certainly not dishonoring her parents, but she will never support them at all financially, will not be at their funerals, and will never help them with their health as they age, and never go out of her way to see or make time for them. Like a married person she has taken vows and entered in to a state of life that will have an impact on her relationship with her parents and will change how they rank as a priority.
Thanks, that was helpful for me to put things in context.
 
So, today’s Mass readings are very related to this topic.
usccb.org/bible/readings/123012.cfm

On what the Catholic Church officially defines as the feast of the Holy Family, the first reading talks entirely about the parents and the love and honor they are entitled to.
Only the second reading has something to say about the wife-husband relationship:
“Wives, be subordinate to your husbands,
as is proper in the Lord.
Husbands, love your wives,
and avoid any bitterness toward them.”


So, and I ask this not to argue, but because I genuinely have been perplexed about this:

Are the directives here outdated and anachronistic? Do these need to be reinterpreted suitably to match the current prevalent world-view of husband and wife being entirely equal, and wife coming first?
But isn’t the Word of God supposed to be eternal and unchangeable?
But that Catholic teaching is that a wife IS EQUAL to her husband. She is equal in dignity and equal before the Lord. The role of husband and wife are not the same, but rather complementary. But both roles and persons are of equal value. This is the unchanged teaching of the Church.
Wives ought to be subordinate in this way: allow her husband to serve her, to allow him to lay down his life for her,to be eager to see her husband’s vision for their marriage, to be encouraging to her husband so he can develop his leadership ability, to recognize the strength and goodness of his masculinity.
Husbands ought to love their wives in this way: to be ready to lay down his life for her, to provide for her and their children, to protect her (emotionally and spiritually, as well as physically), to tenderly meet her needs as he would his own, to recognize the beauty and goodness of how her femininity complements him.
There is SO MUCH written in Holy Scripture that is descriptive of beautiful and holy marriages. Read what Adam said when he was presented to Eve. Read Song of Songs. Read Tobit. Read Paul’s epistles. Read the words of our Lord himself, regarding God’s design for marriage.

In a situation where your wife expresses one opinion and your mother expresses another, and you agree with your mother’s opinion, here is a good way to be kind and respectful to BOTH women you love. Say “Thanks for offering your opinion, Mom. Wife and I will take into consideration what you say.”
Then, when you and your wife are alone, you can say “explain to me your opinion more, and then we can discuss our options together.”. Then, LISTEN. After she has expressed herself, you can say what you opinion is on the matter, and why, but don’t use your mother’s opinion as a trump card on your wife. Have your own reasons to back up your opinion.
Then, come to an agreement TOGETHER. Remember, you and your wife are a team on a mission. If she is to be in submission to you, then you better have a good mission for her to be under. So get her involved and get her excited about your idea.
Then, next time the topic comes up with your mother, say “Wife and I discussed it and we decided together to do ‘X’ .”
Then, your next step is to be proactive about preventing any resentment from your wife to your mother or any smugness from your mother to your wife. Don’t just tell them not to be resentful or smug. But actively observe their next few interactions and assist in smoothing ruffled feathers. You are trying to build a bridge here between your two wonderful women. You love them both and it is your job to facilitate your wife’s full welcome into your family of origin. These wonderful bonds between Inlaws don’t just happen by accident. They are nurtured in a proactive fashion.
 
Thank you all for your perspectives.

This is a very nuanced topic. At the end of it all, despite good intentions, I find myself unable to comprehend or do whatever should have been done in a particular situation to establish peace. Like one of you said, I’m a man and don’t always understand all the subtleties of what is going on in a particular situation. I try to stand by my wife, but I often think she is in the wrong. Problems break out when I disagree with her, but I usually stay with my stance based on the theory that it is better to suffer for what is right. But I am continually beset by confusion - I fear I may have more of a blind spot towards my mother than towards my spouse. My wife knows that, and it makes things worse.

The only thing I am depending on is - God knows my intentions, he loves me, and he is working out His plan in all of this. For example, I came across the following links yesterday - they kind of explain this better:
youtu.be/NwDiJXLCMKw
gnm.org/index2.html (check the “Director’s news” section).

Thanks again, and God bless you. Please say a little prayer for me and my family if you have a minute.
Would you please give a few examples of the problems you are facing? It is really difficult to offer an answer when you don’t know the context. Thanks. 👍
 
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