That’s the best thing. Padre Pio was a great advocate of asking your guardian angel to work with another person’ guardian angel to work out tough situations between the two parties. It’s something I do now often, and can’t hurt for you to try too.
Prayers for you and your wife.
He gave his baby’s first and middle name - I don’t think that is enough information to figure out who they are.I notice that you announce your baby’s name in your signature line. You also give details of yourself and your wife, and share some private matters here.
The internet is not as anonymous as you seem to think. Don’t you think you should be more discreet?
I’m sure it’s already been suggested but you might approach her with the NFP method. Natural Family Planning takes effort on both parties, not just your wife, not just you. It’s-- as if you can’t tell by the title
-- Natural. There are no chemical horomones to injest or anything like that. Also, it’s Church approved. It does take effort to learn and control.
It’s enough information for those who know him to know his and his wife’s private business that he is sharing on this thread.
I was more thinking that people in his immediate circle of Catholic friends or family would know his private marriage business. If I were his wife and knew someone at my church read about me online, my use of contraception, or other private stuff, I would be embarrassed.
This is an attitude you need to get rid of right now. I understand you are still basking in the glow of “convert zeal” but you need to understand something. Using artificial birth control is a sin. Just like any other sin. Your wife is a sinner. What you are saying here is that she should be kicked out of the Church because she is a sinner. Um, so where does that leave all the sinners, with no one to minister to them? And where does that leave the Church, with no job? This attitude that people who commit this one particular sin are not real Catholics is going to get you nowhere with your wife, and it’s also going to alienate you from those of us who have struggled and failed on this teaching.
Now, I am not saying that your wife is not committing a mortal sin, nor am I saying that her culpability is mitigated. What I am saying is that it might be, and you should probably leave this matter between her and God. She knows what you think. She knows what the Church teaches, though she may not really understand why. So now, let it be hers and pray for her.She is right in line with the vast majority of people who identify themselves as Roman Catholic these days. But the truth is if Catholic Church teachings are correct, she and all the rest of the cafeteria cathoics are going to burn in Hell for time and eternity at death.
I agree. It doesn’t sound like there is a post-partum issue going on before. They married and he had no problem with BC and she’s been on it for awhile. He converts and at basically the same time they decide to try for a baby, so when he asks her to go off BC she agrees because she wants a baby also. Now the baby is here so in her mind it only makes sense to go back on BC.
See… this is where people like you get into sticky wickets. The teaching on birth control was NOT infallibly proclaimed. It is a discipline. It is not a required dogma.
that was very well put. Remember even Jesus went around people that were “sinners.” Even Peter denied Jesus three times and still became our first pope. This is where she is now and we will all grow wiht Christ.This is an attitude you need to get rid of right now. I understand you are still basking in the glow of “convert zeal” but you need to understand something. Using artificial birth control is a sin. Just like any other sin. Your wife is a sinner. What you are saying here is that she should be kicked out of the Church because she is a sinner. Um, so where does that leave all the sinners, with no one to minister to them? And where does that leave the Church, with no job? This attitude that people who commit this one particular sin are not real Catholics is going to get you nowhere with your wife, and it’s also going to alienate you from those of us who have struggled and failed on this teaching.
You also have to give your wife some slack because of the culture in which she was raised. She is right to think that taking BC is just what “normal” women do. Everyone does. 95% of Catholics do. Her culture (and probably her upbringing) has handicapped her ability to make a free, moral choice in this matter. Does that remove all her guilt? No. But it may mitigate her culpability. Did your RCIA education teach you about mitigation of culpability? For some people, something defined as a mortal sin may not carry that penalty for them personally, because their ability to make a choice, or understand the choice they are making, is hindered by something. I’m ashamed to admit that my own tubal ligation came about partly due to family peer pressure on the topic.
Your spiritual journey took off into high speed over the last couple of years. That is YOUR reality. It is not hers. Hers is in a different place and at a different speed. She may never reach the place where you are. If you want to remain married and not end up visiting your child on the weekends, but also if you want to truly respect and love your wife for who she is NOW and where she is NOW, then you are going to have to restrain yourself from bringing this topic up all the time. God’s time is not our time. If she allows it, He will take care of it. If she does not allow it, that is beyond your control, and she will pay the penalty of her misuse of free will on her own. You have expressed what needs to be expressed. Now show true love and caring and be supportive and pray for her.
You don’t have to cave. You don’t have to let her force you to agree that ABC is no big deal or that it’s not wrong. You can just say, “You know I don’t agree with you. Let’s talk about something else, because that topic just causes trouble. I love you.”