Wife Won't Accept My Victory

[AvignonPapacy94]

Well, I was raised Catholic. My dad is an Irish Catholic, for heaven’s sake. He knows what’s up. When someone that smart says Catholicism is the way to go, and you trust him, then it’s pretty clear I’m in the right wheelhouse.

Plus, I mean, I find the Scriptures convincing, especially the Gospel of John, and I enjoy the Catholic Church’s spin on most moral teachings, with only a few that can’t be rationally substantiated.

My wife is not a bad person. She just needs to come around a bit, and I’m having trouble showing her that, “Hey, we’re on the right side over here.”

 

[underacloud]

Porn is not entirely bad per se, as long as both spouses agree to the terms of it (i.e. husband gets to look at porn once per month). I mean, we live in the Internet Age.

I’m now more inclined to think this poster is trolling. Very agrumentative and then occasionally drops in something outrageously absurd to incite a reaction?

Or more alarmingly, maybe he really feels that way?

Anyway, if you’re not a troll, your questions have been answered and I wish you the best in embracing your faith more fully. Perhaps you could start by better understanding Catholic sexual ethics, including the immorality of porn:

vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm

 

[AvignonPapacy94]

“Outrageously absurd”? I’m pretty sure every man reading this thread has looked at porn sometime.

But that has nothing to do with my question and I don’t want to get distracted by another side tangent again. What are the best teachings of the Catholic Church (not found in Protestantism) that I should bring to my wife’s attention?

In other words, what’s the best argument for why a second child should be raised Catholic instead of Protestant?

 

[southern_knight]

I’m now more inclined to think this poster is trolling. Very agrumentative and then occasionally drops in something outrageously absurd to incite a reaction?

Or more alarmingly, maybe he really feels that way?

Anyway, if you’re not a troll, your questions have been answered and I wish you the best in embracing your faith more fully. Perhaps you could start by better understanding Catholic sexual ethics, including the immorality of porn:

vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm

I hope your right (I hope there are not kids out there whose religion is based on a coin flip). . Unfortunately, I know many people who consider themselves good Catholics who feel this way including most of my fraternity brothers.

 

[Marie5890]

Well, I was raised Catholic. My dad is an Irish Catholic, for heaven’s sake. He knows what’s up. When someone that smart says Catholicism is the way to go, and you trust him, then it’s pretty clear I’m in the right wheelhouse.

Plus, I mean, I find the Scriptures convincing, especially the Gospel of John, and I enjoy the Catholic Church’s spin on most moral teachings, with only a few that can’t be rationally substantiated.

My wife is not a bad person. She just needs to come around a bit, and I’m having trouble showing her that, “Hey, we’re on the right side over here.”

Best way to do that is thru your behavior conforming to the teachings.
Starting off by making such a big decision by the simple act of a coin toss does make it a harder argument to make as that shows weakness in faith.

Other than showing her thru your behavior, not sure what other ways you can persuade her.

You know your wife best. What do you think is the best way to persuade her, esp after it was based on a coin toss?
She really may think in terms of the football analogy I posted.
Coin toss, you win first half (child) . Second half (or in this case, child) her choice.

 

[MaryT777]

“Outrageously absurd”? I’m pretty sure every man reading this thread has looked at porn sometime.

But that has nothing to do with my question and I don’t want to get distracted by another side tangent again. What are the best teachings of the Catholic Church (not found in Protestantism) that I should bring to my wife’s attention?

In other words, what’s the best argument for why a second child should be raised Catholic instead of Protestant?

Find the book Catholicism for Dummies on Amazon and read it with your wife.
Mary.

 

[Marie5890]

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In other words, what’s the best argument for why a second child should be raised Catholic instead of Protestant?

What was the understanding of the coin toss? Is it her turn to have a second child raised Protestant? Was that the understand the two of you as partners had?

Is it her turn?

 

[AvignonPapacy94]

My wife is all about “equality”, Marie.

 

[Marie5890]

Find the book Catholicism for Dummies on Amazon and read it with your wife.
Mary.

That is a GREAT idea!

Then I would recommend the Catechism.

 

[AvignonPapacy94]

Dummies??? Seriously, Mary, the name-calling wasn’t necessary.

 

[Marie5890]

My wife is all about “equality”, Marie.

So it’s her turn? If that was the understanding of the outcome of the coin toss, your foundation for a good argument is weakened because it’s not about Truth, but it’s about “whose turn it is”

That will be a tough one for you to overcome

 

[AvignonPapacy94]

I guess my question is about the best way to be Catholic in modern America. Everything in moderation, as St. Augustine said, I think…

 

[AvignonPapacy94]

No ****, Marie. That’s why I’m here. We left the prospect of what to do with future children open. That’s why she wants another coin toss. I said the first one was “for keeps” (now, but not at the time).

Like the guy said earlier about casting lots to choose Apostles. You don’t keep choosing lots over and over again…

 

[MaryT777]

Dummies??? Seriously, Mary, the name-calling wasn’t necessary.

It’s an actual book; well regarded. You’ll like it. It’s a beginner’s guide to Catholicism.
Mary.

 

[southern_knight]

I guess my question is about the best way to be Catholic in modern America. Everything in moderation, as St. Augustine said, I think…

If your insinuating that St Augustine thought that porn usage is acceptable in moderation, then you are mistaken. Do you really believe this?

 

[underacloud]

“Outrageously absurd”? I’m pretty sure every man reading this thread has looked at porn sometime.

If they have, then I hope they’ve confessed it and resolved never to commit that sin again. And I hope they have learned to better value the dignity of each person and not see anyone as a mere object for their sexual gratification. And I hope they teach their children the same (which brings us back to how it’s relevant to your question).

But that has nothing to do with my question and I don’t want to get distracted by another side tangent again. What are the best teachings of the Catholic Church (not found in Protestantism) that I should bring to my wife’s attention?

You could look into some of the following teachings:

• The obligation to attend mass every Sunday
• The immorality of contraception
• The immorality of pornography (and masturbation)

I’d start with convincing myself of the Catholic faith, before imposing it on others.

 

[AvignonPapacy94]

Mary, I’ve been a Catholic all my life. I understand the teachings of Jesus and the Catechism. I don’t need to read books aimed at “dummies” to accomplish my objective.

 

[LongingSoul]

You would do well to go through the RCIA program. You can do that even though you are already baptised. That will give you the most rounded education on what it means to be Catholic and you can go from there.

 

[Marie5890]

I guess my question is about the best way to be Catholic in modern America. Everything in moderation, as St. Augustine said, I think…

Havent heard that one from Augustine.

Have heard the

“Total abstinence is easier than perfect moderation” or something to that effect.

 

[firead]

. What are the best teachings of the Catholic Church (not found in Protestantism) that I should bring to my wife’s attention?

In other words, what’s the best argument for why a second child should be raised Catholic instead of Protestant?

Because we have Jesus, we have the fullness of truth, and we were founded by Jesus Christ.

Do you believe in the Real Presence? If not, read, pray, whatever it takes to truly convince yourself that Christ is present, body, blood, soul, and divinity, in the Eucharist. If you truly do believe that, think of what that means Mass really is and what is says about the Church and her authority and legitimacy when compared to the Protestants.

It is one of the hardest things for a Protestant to accept, but it is the key to everything (and was the turning point for me and several other Protestant-to-Catholic converts I know).