Wikipedia claims Pope Francis is pro-contraception

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Anyone here able to clarify that?

The sentence to which I refer currently reads: “He supports the use of contraception to prevent the spread of disease.”
Pier’s Morgan got it from this I believe
He claims that adoption by homosexuals is a form of discrimination against children but believes that condoms “can be permissible” to prevent infection.
guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/13/new-pope-thirteen-key-facts?CMP=twt_gu

I can not find a quote from Pope Francis l where he said condoms were permissible

Cnn says
As a cardinal, he clashed with the government of Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner over his opposition to gay marriage and free distribution of contraceptives.
edition.cnn.com/2013/03/13/world/europe/vatican-pope-selection/index.html

That does not sound like what he would oppose if he thought condoms were permissible
 
So what if he did advocate contraception? It’s high time that the Church updates its antiquated views on this and other issues. If we do not accommodate trends in the secular world, the secular world will no longer accommodate us, and then where would we be?
 
I’m not a doctor, so correct me if I’m wrong, AIDS or hepatitis are the only diseases which they would need protection from. All others can be treated or go into remission. Instead people with such diseases should choose to live a life of celibacy. We ask people with homosexual preferences to do the same,
 
So what if he did advocate contraception? It’s high time that the Church updates its antiquated views on this and other issues. If we do not accommodate trends in the secular world, the secular world will no longer accommodate us, and then where would we be?
truth is never antiquated.
 
So what if he did advocate contraception? It’s high time that the Church updates its antiquated views on this and other issues.
Truth is not antiquated. It’s eternal. Therefore, it cannot change. If we change truth, then we change reality. If reality can be changed, then what are we. There is no such thing as a transient reality. Reality is what it is. You cannot change it.

The Holy Father did not say that he approves contraception. He said the same thing that Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI said. There is the possibility that a method normally used as a contraceptive can be used for another purpose, to prevent the spread of disease. That’s not the same thing as approving contraception.

Look at it this way, there are medications used as for birth control that also serve other purposes such as regulating a woman’s menstrual cycle, shrinking cysts in a polycystic ovary or even acne.
If we do not accommodate trends in the secular world, the secular world will no longer accommodate us, and then where would we be?
The Church is not supposed to accommodate to the secular world. The Church has to speak to the secular world the truth that is immutable in a language that the secular world can understand. She can change her language and modes of delivery, but not the content.

Have you ever been around a good teacher? A good teacher does not change the rules of mathematics. He changes the methodology according to the learning styles of the students, but teaches the same rules and laws of math that Euclid taught centuries ago. The Church is also a teacher. Like all good teachers, she must change her method to reach her audience, not the subject content.

Christ is the center of the Church. He does not change. The truth that he has revealed to mankind cannot be changed. If the Church did that, then she would no longer be the Church of Jesus Christ. She would be the Church of man.
 
So what if he did advocate contraception? It’s high time that the Church updates its antiquated views on this and other issues. If we do not accommodate trends in the secular world, the secular world will no longer accommodate us, and then where would we be?
I think Faithdancer is being sarcastic
 
So what if he did advocate contraception? It’s high time that the Church updates its antiquated views on this and other issues. If we do not accommodate trends in the secular world, the secular world will no longer accommodate us, and then where would we be?
If he did, we would be faced with a case of the Church contradicting itself on a question of faith and morals. That’s simply not possible. And it would be profoundly wrong.

Given that this singular spurious claim is the only one out here, and flies in the face of the rest of Francis’s pre-pontifical record on sexual teachings, I’d dismiss it as erroneous.
 
So what if he did advocate contraception? It’s high time that the Church updates its antiquated views on this and other issues. If we do not accommodate trends in the secular world, the secular world will no longer accommodate us, and then where would we be?
You really wish for the downfall of the Church aren’t you? :mad:
 
Remember what the media did with a comment by then pope Benedict about condoms.

I believe there is a quote out there about the use of condoms (not necessarily approving) by one of the African cardinals. I think the media picked that one up and attributed it to Cardinal Bergoglio.

Dressed up those men all look alike… 😉
 
So what if he did advocate contraception? It’s high time that the Church updates its antiquated views on this and other issues. If we do not accommodate trends in the secular world, the secular world will no longer accommodate us, and then where would we be?
The secular world is not God. The secular world will come to an end in due time and then where will you be? It won’t be there to save you when it’s gone, will it?
 
I’m not a doctor, so correct me if I’m wrong, AIDS or hepatitis are the only diseases which they would need protection from. All others can be treated or go into remission. Instead people with such diseases should choose to live a life of celibacy. We ask people with homosexual preferences to do the same,
No, that is incorrect, Tony.

There are a multitude of sexually transmitted illnesses that we need protection from. Some have no treatment (what’s the difference between love and herpes? herpes last forever…as the joke goes). And even if some are treatable, the sequelae are often more disastrous than the illness itself: infertility being the #1 sequale.
 
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