Will Catholics support Romney?

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Sure. Romney, as a Bishop in the LDS church, pressured a woman who was unmarried and pregnant, to give up her baby for adoption. dailyagenda.org/2012/01/12/romney-told-unwed-pregnant-mom-give-up-your-baby-for-adoption-or-be-excommunicate/ We are talking about hellfire and brimstone here. LDS culture is very unforgiving of sexual transgressions. Read this: filestube.com/m/miracle+of+forgiveness+pdf Deep within LDS culture, a woman who gets in a difficult situation would often rather get an abortion than suffer public humiliation. Finally, there is an elitist core within Mormonism that strongly subscribes to prosperity theology. See the forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=664431 . Romney would rather see tax cuts for his rich friends, than help a young unwed mother see her child graduate from college.

Texas, you are in quite a difficult situation. :slapfight:
First, I have not heard Romney’s version of what happened, only the woman’s. I have learned over the years that there are usually two sides to every story.

Why am I in a difficult position?
 
No. Unfortunately, Catholics will vote in favor of Obama, just as they did in 2008, and give him another four years to stomp on our constitution.
While I agree that most Catholics will vote to reelect Obama, the percentage will not be nearly as one-sided as in 2008. Along with a closer plurality among women, this should be enough to make our President a one term disaster and restore our nation to the path of morality and prosperity.

Romney’s faith will not be an issue, as was the case for Obama’s supposed faith in 2008. I firmly believe that there are not enough misinformed people to award the worst President ever another term to wreck havoc on our Constitution, another opportunity to destroy our country as we know it.
 
Sure. Romney, as a Bishop in the LDS church, pressured a woman who was unmarried and pregnant, to give up her baby for adoption. dailyagenda.org/2012/01/12/romney-told-unwed-pregnant-mom-give-up-your-baby-for-adoption-or-be-excommunicate/ We are talking about hellfire and brimstone here. LDS culture is very unforgiving of sexual transgressions. Read this: filestube.com/m/miracle+of+forgiveness+pdf Deep within LDS culture, a woman who gets in a difficult situation would often rather get an abortion than suffer public humiliation. Finally, there is an elitist core within Mormonism that strongly subscribes to prosperity theology. See the forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=664431 . Romney would rather see tax cuts for his rich friends, than help a young unwed mother see her child graduate from college.

Texas, you are in quite a difficult situation. :slapfight: Apparently, your agreement with the LDS political perspective was what led you into the LDS church.
What LDS perspective do you believe I am in agreement with?
 
I will definitely be voting for the Republican candidate, not because I like the Republicans, but because they tend to do less damage, both fiscally and socially, to the culture than Democrats. The Democrats are the party of death and dead-ends. And agreed with posters above that sitting this one out or writing in an unelectable or nonsense candidate, like yourself, is a vote for the Democrat incumbent.
 
What LDS perspective do you believe I am in agreement with?
I think our most revered moderator would prefer that we take this to PM or e-mail, don’t you think? 👍
 
I think our most revered moderator would prefer that we take this to PM or e-mail, don’t you think? 👍
I did not make it public. You did. You accuse me of an LDS Perspective publicly, then want to take it private? Seems a bit unfair to me.
 
Yowsers. Similar political perspectives is all I am saying.
Guess without being specific, I have no idea what you are talking about.

I am conservative. I hate abortion and socialism.

Anyone who supports Obama supports both.

That’s all I am saying.
 
I feel like I’m stuck between a rock and a hard place. Being from Massachusetts, I can’t even fathom voting for Romney, ever again. Not even for dog catcher. After almost bankrupting the state, then signing the gay marriage bill as his way to thumb his nose at the state as he moved back to Utah to run for president in the last election (before finishing his term as governor), he’s not exactly very high on my list of favorite people.

Romneycare in MA is the basic model for the national healthcare plan that Obama’s trying to push along. You might want to do some more research into what that did for our state, before you think it’s a good thing for the country. It’s a form of socialized medicine that will have the same effect on the US that it’s had on medicine in England and Canada. It will cost us more in the long run, and will make it much more difficult to get the medical care we need, especially for anything that would be defined as a “terminal” illness. The doctors that I know are all against it because it will severely hinder their ability to make their own decisions for the treatment of their patients.

Those of you who hold strong opinions about Obama’s abortion position should also remember that Romney is pro-choice, too. So, there really isn’t a lot of difference between them on that issue, either. IMHO, there really isn’t much if any difference between the two of them. Toss a coin and you’ll get the same thing from either one. I’m not really sure what I’ll do when it comes down to voting, because I really don’t see any appreciable choice if it’s between the two of them.

I’m extremely disappointed that people didn’t do their homework on Romney before the primaries. He’s a slick talker that tells people what they want to hear, and it’s easy to believe he’s a “nice guy”. He really isn’t.
 
I feel like I’m stuck between a rock and a hard place. Being from Massachusetts, I can’t even fathom voting for Romney, ever again. Not even for dog catcher. After almost bankrupting the state, then signing the gay marriage bill as his way to thumb his nose at the state as he moved back to Utah to run for president in the last election (before finishing his term as governor), he’s not exactly very high on my list of favorite people.

Romneycare in MA is the basic model for the national healthcare plan that Obama’s trying to push along. You might want to do some more research into what that did for our state, before you think it’s a good thing for the country. It’s a form of socialized medicine that will have the same effect on the US that it’s had on medicine in England and Canada. It will cost us more in the long run, and will make it much more difficult to get the medical care we need, especially for anything that would be defined as a “terminal” illness. The doctors that I know are all against it because it will severely hinder their ability to make their own decisions for the treatment of their patients.

Those of you who hold strong opinions about Obama’s abortion position should also remember that Romney is pro-choice, too. So, there really isn’t a lot of difference between them on that issue, either. IMHO, there really isn’t much if any difference between the two of them. Toss a coin and you’ll get the same thing from either one. I’m not really sure what I’ll do when it comes down to voting, because I really don’t see any appreciable choice if it’s between the two of them.

I’m extremely disappointed that people didn’t do their homework on Romney before the primaries. He’s a slick talker that tells people what they want to hear, and it’s easy to believe he’s a “nice guy”. He really isn’t.
Romney was my LAST choice in the primaries, but the Republican Platform is Pro-Life, so Romney will have to tone down his less-than-obama’s pro-choice stance. The democratic platform is to allow widespread abortion and you have seen how the democrats tried to force the Catholic Church into horrible positions.

No, the ONLY choice for Catholics is a Republican
 
What about a workers right NOT to be FORCED to join a union? Organized labor cares NOTHING for working people and are all about greed. Romney would be a better choice for workin Americans than you.
You could also say that BIG BUSINESS cares NOTHING for working Americans. As with anything in this life there are good things about unions as well as bad. I don’t always agree with my union’s policies. I have worked in the non-union sector in my field before I joined my labor union; and the union wages are FAR better, the health benefits are FAR better, and worker safety protocols are FAR FAR FAR better.

I know that there are labor organizations out there are corrupt. There are also corrupt police officers. Are all cops bad? No.

Mitt Romney hates ALL of organized labor; I am only talking about ONE man.

ORGANIZED LABOR STANDS FOR:

~An honest day’s work for an honest day’s pay.
~The 8 hour workday.
~A living wage.
~A 40 hour work week with OT pay after 8 hours.
~WEEKENDS!
~NO child labor. (Can China say that?)
~Retirement benefits i.e.: pension, annuity, etc…
~Safe working conditions.
~Fraternal support of your union brothers in need, be it financial, emotional, or moral support.
~Fair and equitable treatment at the hands of management for ALL, regardless of age, race, RELIGIOUS AFFILIATION, or gender.
~AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE.
~Collective Bargaining.

I am a third generation union member, and many of the labor laws that protect our workers are a direct result of my (and likely your) forefathers banding together to be treated FAIRLY.

Sadly, a few bad apples (and lots of unfair negative press) have tarnished a tremendous force for justice. Sounds like a very old institution we all know, doesn’t it? Banding together to negotiate good wages and conditions is a VERY Christian idea, isn’t it?

Mitt Romney sided against Labor at every turn as governor of Massachusetts.

And as far as being FORCED to join a union is concerned… That’s usually a condition of being hired. You know that BEFORE you take the job. Don’t like it? Don’t work there. OR… When the time comes to elect your officers, run for office and change the rule yourself.

I am also VERY sorry that I won’t be getting your vote in November. However, please know that I only want what’s best for the nation. We may not agree, but I’d like to think that at heart we want what’s best for everyone.
 
Agreed, Telstar. We have some very difficult decisions coming up. If Romney makes it CLEAR that his first obligation is to the country, rather than his superiors in Utah, despite his temple oaths, I might vote for him. However, I very much doubt that he will.

And in the part of the country where I live, there are free clinics that do very well. Not all parts of the country have them, and in other areas those that exist are very-- dysfunctional. 😦
 
I’m confused, I thought all talk of political candidates was banned. Is it not banned anymore?

How do we know if a topic is currently banned or not??
 
I’m confused, I thought all talk of political candidates was banned. Is it not banned anymore?

How do we know if a topic is currently banned or not??
It is up to our revered moderator to make those decisions. Caution is the word. Not a quote, but I did communicate with him on the issue, knowing that it was coming up soon.
 
I hear you, and agree - but for years I have voted for the candidate that “said” NO to those things, and yet that party effected absolutely no change in those things whatever. They shook their fists and raged, and did nothing. Abortion is legal, and as long as we have a democracy, it’s not going to go away. I am tired of selling my vote for their empty words, while watching the wars go on, and the poor get poorer. “Vote for me, I am a Christian” is not going to work for me. Talk is cheap.
Do you think the “the poor getting poorer” is a recent phenomenom? Do you think that “the poor getting poorer” is a problem invented by Republicans? It’s always been with us and always will be. We don’t have to accept abortion as a law as long as we are a democracy because we can elect people for public office that are oppose to it. Then we get Supreme Court Justices that can overturn Roe v Wade. As Catholics we have to support candidates that are opposed to those five issues. Life begins at conception. That is an indisputable truth.
 
I’m confused. You are Catholic. You are pro life and you oppose abortion, yet you will support the most pro death president we have ever had. Even pro war Geo. Bush wasn’t responsible for as many deaths as Obama has been in the last four years. I am praying for you.
 
I feel it is imperative to save as many babies as possible. I understand many of the reason why people here do not want Romney in, but honestly I hardly recognize this country. I do not want it to be scene that I think Obama is a horrible person, it i a stretch for me but I think he just has the wrong idea of what is right, I’m sure he know what he wants the out come to be but his way of going about it is upside down and sideways. But I also want to let others know that the once great Democratic party that championed the poor is no longer with us. The poor I know are the homeless lying on benches in the Boston Common, the babies that can’t speak of their desire to live.

I still stress the U.S needs a change of heart which will make voting for Romney even easier, but we have lost our way, and at least in my parish we know about Obama’s anti-Christian policies, and we fill our chest’s and cast our vote against Obama. At least I won’t be concerned with wearing my Rosary when Romney is in office.
 
I feel like I’m stuck between a rock and a hard place. Being from Massachusetts, I can’t even fathom voting for Romney, ever again. Not even for dog catcher. After almost bankrupting the state, then signing the gay marriage bill as his way to thumb his nose at the state as he moved back to Utah to run for president in the last election (before finishing his term as governor), he’s not exactly very high on my list of favorite people.

Romneycare in MA is the basic model for the national healthcare plan that Obama’s trying to push along. You might want to do some more research into what that did for our state, before you think it’s a good thing for the country. It’s a form of socialized medicine that will have the same effect on the US that it’s had on medicine in England and Canada. It will cost us more in the long run, and will make it much more difficult to get the medical care we need, especially for anything that would be defined as a “terminal” illness. The doctors that I know are all against it because it will severely hinder their ability to make their own decisions for the treatment of their patients.

Those of you who hold strong opinions about Obama’s abortion position should also remember that Romney is pro-choice, too. So, there really isn’t a lot of difference between them on that issue, either. IMHO, there really isn’t much if any difference between the two of them. Toss a coin and you’ll get the same thing from either one. I’m not really sure what I’ll do when it comes down to voting, because I really don’t see any appreciable choice if it’s between the two of them.

I’m extremely disappointed that people didn’t do their homework on Romney before the primaries. He’s a slick talker that tells people what they want to hear, and it’s easy to believe he’s a “nice guy”. He really isn’t.
Romney spent the last six years building his organization and raising money. The others didn’t have a chance although I was praying for Mr. Santorum. We never elect the best people. We always elect the best politician and fundraiser.:mad:
 
Agreed, Telstar. We have some very difficult decisions coming up. If Romney makes it CLEAR that his first obligation is to the country, rather than his superiors in Utah, despite his temple oaths, I might vote for him. However, I very much doubt that he will.

And in the part of the country where I live, there are free clinics that do very well. Not all parts of the country have them, and in other areas those that exist are very-- dysfunctional. 😦
He has to or he won’t get elected. Remember John Kennedy.
 
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