Will Heaven be "Non-denominational"?

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What a bunch of dogma and fairy tales! It’s funny that you all take this stuff as if it’s real… I myself believe in aliens, have seen ghosts and supernatural stuff, but this whole bit about heaven and god and communion is so silly…
 
jedimasterham said:
What a bunch of dogma and fairy tales! It’s funny that you all take this stuff as if it’s real… I myself believe in aliens, have seen ghosts and supernatural stuff, but this whole bit about heaven and god and communion is so silly…
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Yeah but when I grow up I want to be a Jedi Master. Cause Star Wars is cool.
👍 ???
 
jedimasterham said:
What a bunch of dogma and fairy tales! It’s funny that you all take this stuff as if it’s real… I myself believe in aliens, have seen ghosts and supernatural stuff, but this whole bit about heaven and god and communion is so silly…
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I think you need to be respectful to other religions instead of being silly yourself.
 
jedimasterham said:
What a bunch of dogma and fairy tales! It’s funny that you all take this stuff as if it’s real… I myself believe in aliens, have seen ghosts and supernatural stuff, but this whole bit about heaven and god and communion is so silly…
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Please be more respectful to our beliefs. After all this is a Catholic site and you are a guest here as we all are.
 
jedimasterham said:
What a bunch of dogma and fairy tales! It’s funny that you all take this stuff as if it’s real… I myself believe in aliens, have seen ghosts and supernatural stuff, but this whole bit about heaven and god and communion is so silly…
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C’mon guys, you know it’s not a “real” thread until some yahoo jumps in and tries to get himself banned within 50 posts. 👍

I firmly believe half of these “gonzo posters” are middler schoolers with too much computer access and too little parental supervision.

Shoo!
 
From Catholic Encyclopedia – the word Catholic

“Catholic (katholikos from katholou – throughout the whole, i.e., universal)”

When all of time is complete and all Saints are in heaven, the Catholic Church will be all those in heaven. In the original sense of the word – the whole Church, the universal Church. Anyone not in heaven will not be part of the whole Church. Because the whole Church will be there.
 
I really think God is chuckling over us now. 😉
How could we decide whether Heaven will be denominational or not since denomination is a human category, the invention of human thinking, but Heaven is something ears have not heard, eyes have not seen, human understanding cannot conceive?
It’s like asking Jesus about the woman seven brothers married in a row, whose wife she will be at the resurrection…
 
Margita said:
How could we decide whether Heaven will be denominational or not since denomination is a human category, the invention of human thinking,…
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Denominations are man made, but the Holy Catholic Church is not. Therein lies the difference.

There will be no denominations, because Christ left us ONE Church. It is sinful men who created the divisions.

~Liza
 
jedimasterham said:
What a bunch of dogma and fairy tales! It’s funny that you all take this stuff as if it’s real… I myself believe in aliens, have seen ghosts and supernatural stuff, but this whole bit about heaven and god and communion is so silly…
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Based upon your comments on another thread I can see that no adult ever taught you anything. What a shame.

CDL
 
lizaanne said:
Denominations are man made, but the Holy Catholic Church is not. Therein lies the difference.

There will be no denominations, because Christ left us ONE Church. It is sinful men who created the divisions.

~Liza
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Absolutely correct!
 
I think those who are not Catholic will become Catholic in Heaven simply because they will know the fullness of Truth. When this happens, they will see how the the Catholic Church makes sense. Once they have this knowledge, how can they refuse Heaven? Same with atheists and non-Christians.
 
jedimasterham said:
What a bunch of dogma and fairy tales! It’s funny that you all take this stuff as if it’s real… I myself believe in aliens, have seen ghosts and supernatural stuff, but this whole bit about heaven and god and communion is so silly…
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Well, jedimaster, I look at it this way. I could think it is all silly and be all embarassed to admit that I believe in something I can’t see or understand and then risk the chance to ending up in hell for eternity, or I could have faith and believe, and have the possibility of ending up in heaven.

If I’m wrong to believe and it is all smoke and mirrors, what do I loose? Nothing. If you are wrong to doubt and it is all true, what do YOU loose? Everything.

It’s a big wager - eternity is a very long time. You take your pick. But in the mean time, I hope you learn something by being here.

~Liza
 
jedimasterham said:
What a bunch of dogma and fairy tales! It’s funny that you all take this stuff as if it’s real… I myself believe in aliens, have seen ghosts and supernatural stuff, but this whole bit about heaven and god and communion is so silly…
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What about those who have seen Jesus? What about those who experienced stigmata? People get excited with Area 51 and seeing little green men around a crash site. None of that is definitive. But people don’t get excited when Padre Pio held his bloody hands in the air or seeing a Eucharistic host bleed profusely with no scientific explanation. All of this is supernatural as well, and yet you choose to believe in aliens, which is unsubstantiated.
 
lizaanne said:
Denominations are man made, but the Holy Catholic Church is not. Therein lies the difference.

There will be no denominations, because Christ left us ONE Church. It is sinful men who created the divisions.

~Liza
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I have never questioned that. I am perfectly aware of the difference between “Church” and “denomination” - however, the OP only used the word “denomination”. My post was an answer to that.
 
Catholic Mass is Heaven on earth. Mass incorporates the form of heavenly worship according to the description in the book of Revelation.

When Catholics get to heaven, we will find the familiar worship we have been used to all our life time. For others, they have to adjust to this worship format since they have never experienced it before.

As for denomination, there won’t be any.
The only worship in heaven is in the form of Catholic Mass.🙂
 
Now, on a slightly lighter note:

A Baptist died and went to heaven. He met St. Peter at the Pearly Gates who tells him to go down the hall to room 3, for Baptists.

A Greek Orthodox died, went to heaven. He met St. Peter at the Pearly Gates who tells him that the Orthodox are down the hall on the left in room 6.

A Buddhist died, went to heaven…St. Peter tells him to go down the hall to room 11 on the right.

And so it went, with all the various religions and denominations until, finally, a Jew died, and went to heaven. St. Peter met him at the Pearly Gates and tells him to go down the hall to room 5 on the right, for the Jews. He adds, “Please go as quietly as you can.” The Jew asks, “Why?” St. Peter responds, "Well, all the Catholics are down the hall in room 4, and they think they’re the only ones here!" 😃 😃 😃

Christ is among us!

In peace,
Jeff
 
Will “Catholic” even apply? “Catholic” is a term originated somewhere in the 4th century, give or take one or two, to differentiate from heresies. Otherwise, it would still be Christians - which is how Christians were called by other people in Antioch if I remember right.

Imagining religious denominations and rites in heaven is projecting mortal reality on the divine. 😉

There will be truth there and all answers. 😉
 
chevalier said:
Will “Catholic” even apply? “Catholic” is a term originated somewhere in the 4th century, give or take one or two, to differentiate from heresies. Otherwise, it would still be Christians - which is how Christians were called by other people in Antioch if I remember right.

Imagining religious denominations and rites in heaven is projecting mortal reality on the divine. 😉

There will be truth there and all answers. 😉
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Ignatius of Antioch referred to the Church as Catholic just after the year 100 … (by the way… the ONLY Church in existence, and the ONLY form of Christianity anywhere) .

He may even have used the term during the first century, but the first record of his use of the term came around 110 or earlier.
 
chevalier said:
Will “Catholic” even apply? “Catholic” is a term originated somewhere in the 4th century, give or take one or two, to differentiate from heresies. Otherwise, it would still be Christians - which is how Christians were called by other people in Antioch if I remember right.

Imagining religious denominations and rites in heaven is projecting mortal reality on the divine. 😉

There will be truth there and all answers. 😉
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that is hardly the foremost meaning.

Heresies have existed from day one in various degrees… and the word heresies had to come second since they require that a person first know the Truth and then profess the opposite.

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In Heaven there will be the fullness of Truth and abiding in the fullness of Truth eternally, in Christ Jesus. As the Catholic Church is the fullness of Truth (behind the veil) in Heaven the Church will be perfected and the Church will live in the fullness of Truth in understanding and perfection with God by His Mercy. Perfect Catholicism, if you like.

However all those who believe in Christ Jesus even though they may not have lived in the fullness of Truth (Christian beliefs outside of Catholicism) will by God’s Mercy abide in the fullness of Truth in Heaven as One Church. ‘Whoever is not against us is for us’ and ‘I have sheep that are not of this flock and I must tend them also’.

For souls who do not believe in Christ Jesus they will have every opportunity especially in the hour before death to come to belief.

I believe that a soul who is drawn near to the lower levels of heaven at death and glimpses the power and glory of God without seeing Him will come to belief and not to do so would immediately result in that soul sending their own soul to hell.

There are no denominations in Heaven because every soul is brought to perfection in the fullness of the Revelation of Christ Jesus, One Church, One Lord.
 
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