Will Heaven be "Non-denominational"?

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I am certainly not arrogant enough to think that we will find only Catholics in heaven. I believe we will be judged according to the light we have been given. There may be a “transition” period for good protestant people that are in heaven, thus, by the time they get there they will be “Catholic”, but I believe there will be a goodly amount of Catholics that also will end up in purgatory for a bit as well. Catholics have been given the true light and have more responsiblity because of it, and I think we might be surprised at the “Non-Catholics” that will be in heaven and “Catholics” that don’t end up there at all!! Our God is a just and merciful judge and will KNOW who has a true heart of love and devotion to Him, Catholic or Non. Just my:twocents:
 
Here is the answer, straight from the Book of Revelation:

" After this I looked, and behold, a great** multitude** which no man could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands"

I’m sure that there are at least some nations, tribes, and peoples where no one was ever a Catholic.
 
Listener said:
Here is the answer, straight from the Book of Revelation:

" After this I looked, and behold, a great** multitude** which no man could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands"

I’m sure that there are at least some nations, tribes, and peoples where no one was ever a Catholic.
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And I am sure that they were all sinners… but all that changes before one can enter Heaven.
 
I don’t see any previous poster with the right answer. The presence of the Most High is heaven. If there is any “indentity” of religious orientation, remember that God is not Catholic. He’s a Jew.

Matthew
 
drafdog said:
I don’t see any previous poster with the right answer. The presence of the Most High is heaven. If there is any “indentity” of religious orientation, remember that God is not Catholic. He’s a Jew.

Matthew
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Does this make you correct? 😉
 
drafdog said:
I don’t see any previous poster with the right answer. The presence of the Most High is heaven. If there is any “indentity” of religious orientation, remember that God is not Catholic. He’s a Jew.

Matthew
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Jesus WAS a Jew… and He fullfilled the OT by founding a church…His church… on Peter…

I don’t remember seeing that it was Jewish.

Perhaps we could consider His “conversion” to His Church… which we know as the Catholic Church.

That may be what will happen at our earthly death… we will fully “convert” to His Church regardless of our eternal destination (totally in the Church-Heaven, or totally out-hell)

One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism’

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Does this make you correct? 😉
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Are you denying that the Messiah is a Jew?
He was born of a Jewish mother and was circumcised according to the Torah. He is “Son of David” and many other specifically Jewish titles. He is a Jew.

Matthew
 
drafdog said:
Are you denying that the Messiah is a Jew?
He was born of a Jewish mother and was circumcised according to the Torah. He is “Son of David” and many other specifically Jewish titles. He is a Jew.

Matthew
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I didn’t deny it, but perhaps you could explain further how Jesus being a Jew is the answer to the question of OP?
 
Saul of Tarsus was one of the worst persecutors of the early Christian church. One day, “As he journeyed he came near Damascus, and suddenly a light shone around him from
heaven**”…“the Lord spoke to him saying, I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting”**

Saul, a Jew, persecuting the early Christians, the early Catholics. Jesus said “I am Jesus whom you are persecuting”… the Church, is the mystical body of Christ here on earth. If Jesus were Jew, it is only because the promise came from that line. But God can’t have a race, He created the different races, all of which are made in the image and likeness of Him.

But did specifically say that when you are persecuting the Christians, the early Catholics, then you are persecuting Him.

Most of the Jews nowadays does not accept Jesus Christ, which makes them Anti-Christ, I’m not promoting anti-semitic, but what do you call someone who does not accept Christ and His teachings…call him for what he is…an anti-Christ. So how can Jesus be someone who’s against Himself? I am not anti-semetic but rather anti-sin.

Jesus even predicted the destruction of the Jewish temple which will happen 40 years later. He said to flee to the hills and not go back to the temple, not to go back to the old worship, because it didn’t really took away sins and prepared us for God, he instituted the mass and the sacraments which does.

So to classify Jesus as a Jew is not an accurate representation of the true God who is unversal and a God for all people.
 
If the thick-headed pharasies would have listened, we’d still be jewish, lol…

But since that’s not the case.

My opinons: The Non-Cathoilics will have reality check if they make it to heaven. (Salvation not being a gurarentee)

For us Catholics that do make it, it’s going to be just like going to mass.
 
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t all Christians part of the Catholic Church (though imperfectly united)? Christ only has one Church.

The Church in heaven will certainly be “catholic” meaning “universal.” This will be comprised of all who die in God’s friendship. (All who are saved)

We are all one people, and will all go to the same place. There will be no divisions.
 
The Catholics in Purgatory will be giving a crash course to all the Baptists and Lutherans and Presbyterians, etc. that made it that far because they will wonder where they are. At first they might think they are in that other place.
 
Some of Paul’s letters have passages where Christ’s work on the cross is not just about getting a club of people into heaven, but also about reconciling all things in heaven and Earth to God. At the end of all things, God will be ‘all in all’ in a new heaven and earth (which transplated into our own time could be called a glorified cosmos ) in which all things are in harmony. The redeemed of all churches and all ages will be there, as no doubt will many righteous who lived before Christ and were ‘baptised’ in ways we don’t know.

Because Jesus is not just the historical Jesus but also the logos by which God makes and sustains the cosmos we need to see salvation from a cosmic as well as parochial perspective. The death and resurrection has a universal significance and we can apply that to matters of salvation as well (without implying universalism in an unqualified way).
 
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Some of Paul’s letters have passages where Christ’s work on the cross is not just about getting a club of people into heaven, but also about reconciling all things in heaven and Earth to God. At the end of all things, God will be ‘all in all’ in a new heaven and earth (which transplated into our own time could be called a glorified cosmos ) in which all things are in harmony. The redeemed of all churches and all ages will be there, as no doubt will many righteous who lived before Christ and were ‘baptised’ in ways we don’t know.

Because Jesus is not just the historical Jesus but also the logos by which God makes and sustains the cosmos we need to see salvation from a cosmic as well as parochial perspective. The death and resurrection has a universal significance and we can apply that to matters of salvation as well (without implying universalism in an unqualified way).
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Excellent insight! Well said.
 
Franciscan said:
If the Mass is a foretaste of Heaven and the Real Presence- the closest/most intimate we can get with Christ, then Heaven is like Catholicism.

The reason I started this thread was becuase I was thinking if for example Jerry Falwell (who just died) makes it to heaven- Will he be shocked to find that The Catholic Faith was the real deal.

If so would’nt he have to have a conversion of heart, and accept Our Lady as Mother and Queen, the communion of Saints etc.?--------------------------- or--------------------

Is heaven just a personal judgement of the heart between the person and Christ and how that relationship is?​

We are taught Heaven is communal.
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i believe mr. falwell would need to spend some time in purgatory before actually facing Christ.
and, yes, i think mr. falwell has been most rudely awakened.
 
Since the eternal God (Eternal Father, Son, Spirit) is the focus of Heaven forever, denominational concepts will be moot. To what extent what we know as “Church” or “Mass” in our daily lives will be represented then is unknown. We live now according to a certain order for this time according to limited revelation. Then, there will be no limits. God has chosen to reconcile men unto Himself through Jesus, ultimately whether or not one is a Catholic or non-Catholic believer in Christ will be irrelevant. Having said that, I do believe that Catholic Christianity is the closest thing to original, or primitive Christianity, in the world today.
 
Here are the words of God on the subject:

The New American Bible - Rom 9:15
For he says to Moses: “I will show mercy to whom I will, I will take pity on whom I will.”

The New American Bible - Rom 10:8-13
But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we preach),
for, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
For one believes with the heart and so is justified, and one confesses with the mouth and so is saved.
For the scripture says, “No one who believes in him will be put to shame.”
For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; the same Lord is Lord of all, enriching all who call upon him.
For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
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God bless you all.
 
I think the biggest surprise of all, for Protestants, is when they find out, Jesus made Mary, Queen of Heaven. 😃
 
I believe it will be non-denominational in a sense and every Christian will be one finally.
 
I find it interesting that the Catholic Theology uses the words of the Lord to describe the one Faith we will share in Heaven.

This requires a staunch support of the One True Church founded by Jesus… now found in the Catholic Church.

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The protestant theologies often just express the ecumenism moniker that we we will just all be one.

This accepts any of the man-made faith communities as being acceptable for salvation.

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