Will ISIS attack America next?

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oldcatholicguy said:
911 was about the shock factor, not the damage factor. Most terrorist and extremist attacks focus more on creating shock and fear then any actual physical or economic damage.
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not sure I agree with that. they are more than happy to cause physical and economic damage as well as shock and fear.
 
Fox News reporter Bill Hemmer on President Obama’s press conference results today

youtube.com/watch?v=xmpLJbeGCds

In other words, don’t expect any policy changes.

Maybe better questions for this thread title…Are you ready to accept the evils we must face today? Are you ready to make this your new reality?
 
b_ulmen said:
I did read elsewhere that ISIS claimed they would attack America at our center (i.e. DC). Well, I’d hate to rain on their parade, but if they truly believe that we hold DC in the same high regard as the French hold Paris, then they are sadly mistaken. I don’t believe that we collectively as a nation are as passionate about a city (well, NYC perhaps, though I’m sure I’ll hear it from the Chicago fans) as they think we are. While the attacks on 9/11 may have had some symbolism for the attackers, we reacted not because of WHAT was hit, but because we WERE hit. Muslims flip-out when a copy of the Koran is in any way ‘desecrated’. Christians (generally speaking) don’t care about the material book, its the principles contained therein that, when violated, motivate actions.

Wonder if we’ll ever know (before hand) what happened to those guns taken from armory in Mass.
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I disagree, if they hit DC, it would be a HUGE thing for most people, as that is our nations capitol, a major attack here would cause the same sentiment that happened to NYC, but on a much larger scale, since it is basically the birthplace of our Govt, democracy, etc.

Im also not so sure thats a good thing that most christians dont get offended by destruction of a bible in the way Muslims do when a Koran is damaged, destroying the book IS the same thing, they are trying to desecrate our religion, the bible and Koran are just the ‘tool’. IN reality, christians SHOULD be very angry if a bible is desecrated, but most christians would not be willing to go as far for their beliefs as muslims are…Im not saying that in a supportive way of jihadists, but just saying, their religion is the absolute main concern, everything else comes second.
 
A poignant point from a commenter on Reuter’s: " If ISIS is truly a “perversion of Islam,” then Muslim leaders need to clean house and hunt down ISIS. Instead of issuing fatwas against cartoonists and writers…. issue them against ISIS. And hunt them down? Why does this not happen? Because ISIS is likely not a perversion of Islam. It is just Islam."

What is Islam’s true identity? Their leaders should please spell it out and stick to it. Or are they too afraid to reveal their true intentions? If they refuse to take a stand, should we assume The Worst?
 
ManOnFire said:
A poignant point from a commenter on Reuter’s: " If ISIS is truly a “perversion of Islam,” then Muslim leaders need to clean house and hunt down ISIS. Instead of issuing fatwas against cartoonists and writers…. issue them against ISIS. And hunt them down? Why does this not happen? Because ISIS is likely not a perversion of Islam. It is just Islam."

What is Islam’s true identity? Their leaders should please spell it out and stick to it. Or are they too afraid to reveal their true intentions? If they refuse to take a stand, should we assume The Worst?
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“Because ISIS is likely not a perversion of Islam. It is just Islam.” Except it’s not. And the evidence for this are the millions of peaceful Muslims. Do we demand that Christians come forward and denounce the WBC every time its followers do something abhorrent? Do we demand that the Church of LDS comes forward every time a child is married to an adult in a fundamentalist Mormon circle? There are fundamentalists in every faith. Do we really equally demand that non-fundamentalists in the same faith respond as we’re asking Muslims to?

ibtimes.co.uk/paris-attacks-muslims-use-notinmyname-hashtag-condemn-isis-terrorism-1528938
 
The manhunt in Europe has spread to Germany,

thelocal.de/20151117/three-arrested-in-aachen-connect-to-terror-attacks

Sure, all of this is far from being “all” Muslims but what if it is broken down to saying it is occurring among young men, “some” young men, as at this point, all of the Paris perpetrators seem to be that and what is the percentage among the young men in these little predominantly Muslim neighborhoods? Look how many terror recruits the Somali community in Minneapolis has had? Not just for ISIS but El Shabaab as well.

As said, it certainly is not all but I’ve heard the theory that once you start to get the Muslim population as being around 10% of the total, you are bound to have some problems.

And the Saudis apparently have spent billions to export their Wahhabism brand and President Hollande in his speech said something about “Salafists”, so definitely, there is something in the details to be careful of.

Disenfranchised youth, it be in the US, France or Egypt.
 
gracepoole said:
“Because ISIS is likely not a perversion of Islam. It is just Islam.” Except it’s not. And the evidence for this are the millions of peaceful Muslims. Do we demand that Christians come forward and denounce the WBC every time its followers do something abhorrent? Do we demand that the Church of LDS comes forward every time a child is married to an adult in a fundamentalist Mormon circle? There are fundamentalists in every faith. Do we really equally demand that non-fundamentalists in the same faith respond as we’re asking Muslims to?

ibtimes.co.uk/paris-attacks-muslims-use-notinmyname-hashtag-condemn-isis-terrorism-1528938
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Do you really equate these to mass murder? Our leaders would denounce mass murder. Theirs could make it official by issuing a fatwa but they don’t. The point is that the silence is deafening, unless the excuse for immigration is intentional, which it may be.
 
ManOnFire said:
Do you really equate these to mass murder? Our leaders would denounce mass murder. Theirs could make it official by issuing a fatwa but they don’t. The point is that the silence is deafening, unless the excuse for immigration is intentional, which it may be.
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Did you know that Boko Haram specifically targets and has bombed and murdered mosques and Imams and Muslim leaders who speak out against the group? Did you even know that there where Imams and Muslim leaders in Nigeria who spoke out against Boko Haram? Maybe the silence is deafening because no one is listening.
 
ManOnFire said:
Do you really equate these to mass murder? Our leaders would denounce mass murder. Theirs could make it official by issuing a fatwa but they don’t. The point is that the silence is deafening, unless the excuse for immigration is intentional, which it may be.
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zab said:
**Ex CIA Agent: ISIS Is in America; Some have entered from Mexico **newsmax.com/US/ISIS-border-threat-mexico/2014/09/02/id/592180/

The article goes on to say that other ISIS members are American citizens who have been to Syria and have returned.

ISIS Threatens to Attack Washington DC in New Videoabcnews.go.com/US/isis-threatens-attack-dc-video/story?id=35242900
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Sounds like someone from Fox News said this.

US customs agents are at the border. They have the right to search any suspicious activity. They also state of the art technology. Some of this has to bear on their hands.
 
chero23 said:
Sounds like someone from Fox News said this.

US customs agents are at the border. They have the right to search any suspicious activity. They also state of the art technology. Some of this has to bear on their hands.
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I wouldnt say the US mexican border is well protected, after all, the major drug cartels are CONSISTENTLY able to get enough of their products in, enough to keep almost every US city supplied (that alone is incredible), so I doubt it would be that difficult for ISIS to get people or weapons in.
 
mikekle said:
I wouldnt say the US mexican border is well protected, after all, the major drug cartels are CONSISTENTLY able to get enough of their products in, enough to keep almost every US city supplied (that alone is incredible), so I doubt it would be that difficult for ISIS to get people or weapons in.
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But we have great technology, the immigration agents also have a lot of knowledge. True, cartels use tunnels, but be honest with yourself, look at the war on drugs. We haven’t been able to finish the war due to corruption on all levels. That corruption leads to other things besides drugs coming in.
 
mikekle said:
I wouldnt say the US mexican border is well protected, after all, the major drug cartels are CONSISTENTLY able to get enough of their products in, enough to keep almost every US city supplied (that alone is incredible), so I doubt it would be that difficult for ISIS to get people or weapons in.
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Drug dealers and terrorists aren’t viewed the same by other criminals and law enforcement. To be honest, the Mexican cartels are probably more worried about terrorists using the border then Americans are. Terrorists bring attention that is bad for business.
 
oldcatholicguy said:
Drug dealers and terrorists aren’t viewed the same by other criminals and law enforcement. To be honest, the Mexican cartels are probably more worried about terrorists using the border then Americans are. Terrorists bring attention that is bad for business.
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I agree with your post.
 
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