The form of the Mass has absolutely nothing to do with those things – they are all still quite allowed.
No it wouldn’t. They would retain their Divine Liturgies just as the different Eastern Catholic churches have today.
For instance, one otherwise nice priest has a tendency to say at every Mass he does things like this. For the Confiteor he says: “You came to heal those who are sorry, Lord have mercy.” And to say “Go to love, to trust, and to serve the Lord.”
So you gave up the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ because the surroundings did nothing to enhance it?
When the new mass was approved, a document written in Latin described it as a “novus Ordo”, simply meaning a “new Order”. “Novus” in this context was simply a temporary description, as the order was indeed new. The current edition of the Roman Missile simply calls it the Order of Mass. It is informally described as the Pauline Mass, based on the Pope who issued the Missile, or the 1969 Mass, but “novus” was never intended to be a permenant designation; it simply exists along side the 1962 (aka “Tridentine”) version, as well as various forms of the mass in the respective Eastern Christian rites.
^ This.
And maybe I’m reading into it, but it also sniffs of the conspiratorialism of the term “Novus Ordo Seclorum” - New World Order.
There may be some truth (and seriousness) to that. I believe this was printed on the US $1 bill over 200 years ago. It’s still there last I checked.
Granted.
It seems like conspiracy theories just try to show correlation. Perhaps even patterns. But they don’t really prove anything. If anything, one display of inconsistency and the entire thing loses credibility. Look what’s been done with the number “666” for example. But a lot find that offensive. However, I digress. Maybe a good topic for discussion on another forum.
Those for whom English is the vernacular received a revised translation. Please do not speak as though that applies to everyone. The vernaculars the rest of us use are happily what they have been for decades.
we had a bilingual Mass last night. it is confusing when half is done in Engkish and half in Spanish. I am fluent in Spanish but I think the priest was having a bad night because the Spanish was very hard to understand. Spanish is not his first language. so I can understand sometimes why Mass was said in Latin for so many years. there were more Spanish speakers in attendance than English speakers. it is too bad they don’t have enough priests whose first language is Spanish. the priests do their best but I know how difficult it is when the priest is from India, Nigeria or the Phillipines. I am thankful for all priests don’t get me wrong.
Yes it will. Always has.
I agree. Except for the homily the half-English, half-Spanish is most confusing. And it’s not the language so much but the culture of the rubrics that’s affected (or affecting it). Not to mention the music.
We do this as well. We are trying to support the Hispanic culture here, which is great.
