And it seems English isn’t the only concern.
^^^This. For starters, how many Anglophones use words like “consubstantial” in their daily speech. For seconds, let’s get back to an accurate translation of "*et dimitte nobis **debita **nostra, sicut et nos dimittimus **debitoribus *nostris."
Fine, some dont like it. Got that. But that doesnt mean Rome is going to act on people’s personal preferences. Again, )Definitely costly, just for the Vatican to maintain and oversee several hundred vernaculars.
That may be but the bishops can be very influential when they want to be. Look at the German bishops in other things. And did you get that part where some bishops have conveniently tabled the translations which were required of them by BXVI? That’s bound to be found sooner or later.(Edit: Ok just finished the entire article. It’s so far down on the Holy Father’s list of priorities, Im not even sure why people thing this suggestion has any legs.
These English translations I believe are affecting other religions. I think “and also with you” might still be used by the Anglicans and Lutherans, who may be having some influence too, for all we know.
There probably would be of no cost benefit in changing the Anglican Use or the EF (Tridentine Mass), which have pretty much their own prayers and are not so widespread. As I understand it, the Pope wants to keep costs down so I imagine he’ll leave a lot of this work to the bishops and the dioceses. I can’t picture the Vatican directing the correction of the English language any more.
I never know how to feel about this thought process. Isn’t the most important thing about the Mass is the fact that Jesus is really there? Consequently, while I can understand frustration with the current Mass form, it’s still infinitely better than the alternatives. If anything, we should make an effort to attend valid, licit masses that we don’t like. This way we can train ourselves to be attentive towards Jesus instead of externalities of the Mass.
An increased presence of the Holy Spirit?? How has He *not *always been with us in His totality for the past 2,000 years? The Church will always be the antidote to the world, NOT capitulating to it as many wish through change, but be the beacon on the hill which always leads the way to salvation whether the world agrees or not.I believe that there are going to be a lot of changes in Catholicism over the next few decades **due to an increase presence of the Holy Spirit, **and that we are living in a rapidly changing world. I also think the Pope Francis will start some of these changes during his pontificate. I do not think it will be watered-down, but new revelations by which the Church can better help those grow in a deeper faith. Come, Holy Spirit!
LOVE!
Why apologize for an unfortunate truth? Catholics are losing their faith and volumes have been written about the loss of the sense of the Sacred in liturgy although we need no books to discern what is before our very eyes. We see it; we live it and we experience it as man continually draws the focus back to man, not the Transcendent.
Yes, the Holy Spirit has always been with us since the time of Christ, but too often, His ‘voice’ is overshadowed by Satan. As Church members become even more spiritual, the Holy Spirit will become more evident. Sorry about my poor phrasing in my above post.
