Will the west come under Islamic Sharia Law

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Hi i used west in the title but i am most keen to hear of your thinking for America, UK, Australia.

What do you think, will it, wont it?
When and how?

What are you doing to make it happen or what are you doing to stop it happen?
Who gives you this guidance?

Bless you all, pray well and stay well.
 
Shariah law is not consistent with the constitutions of these countries.

Having said that, I have read that it exists with the UK. I cannot be sure about that.

All I can say at this point is that it SHOULD NOT come to be because it is contrary to the Constitution, at least in the US.
 
I can’t see it happening in my lifetime. And I’m still quite young 😃

That said, if it does happen, and there are unjust laws introduced to my country, then I hope to God I’d have the courage to fight against them.

If all the laws are just, then I don’t care. As long as it doesn’t interfere with me following the law of God.
 
LDNCatholic said:
I can’t see it happening in my lifetime. And I’m still quite young 😃

That said, if it does happen, and there are unjust laws introduced to my country, then I hope to God I’d have the courage to fight against them.

If all the laws are just, then I don’t care. As long as it doesn’t interfere with me following the law of God.
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Don’t be so sure. It would be crazy to let this go and be OK. It’s like the time, years ago, when people let the Nazis let them have their way, because it didn’t affect them.

IF YOU CARE, YOU CAN’T LET ANYTHING IMPEDE THAT.

Complacency is what people that want to change your country are COUNTING ON.

It may be too late for the UK. I pray it is not too late for the US.
 
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Don’t be so sure. It would be crazy to let this go and be OK. It’s like the time, years ago, when people let the Nazis let them have their way, because it didn’t affect them.

IF YOU CARE, YOU CAN’T LET ANYTHING IMPEDE THAT.

Complacency is what people that want to change your country are COUNTING ON.

It may be too late for the UK. I pray it is not too late for the US.
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Well, to be fair, in the case of the UK, it’s more than just complacency, it’s an outright hostility to religion or morals. I can’t see the Star and Crescent flag waving over Buck House anytime soon.

Who said I’m complacent? I just don’t give Shari’ah any publicity by going toe to toe with it. As a Catholic I should be restoring Christ’s Church, not bickering with another religion.

Holy Mother Church is in trouble here in the UK and faces unrelenting attack from the media and those it has influence over. If I’m in a sinking ship it doesn’t do me any good to attack the iceberg now does it? If every baptised Catholic in the UK started following their religion properly there’d be no inroad for this sort of thing.
 
LDNCatholic said:
Well, to be fair, in the case of the UK, it’s more than just complacency, it’s an outright hostility to religion or morals. I can’t see the Star and Crescent flag waving over Buck House anytime soon.

Who said I’m complacent? I just don’t give Shari’ah any publicity by going toe to toe with it. As a Catholic I should be restoring Christ’s Church, not bickering with another religion.

Holy Mother Church is in trouble here in the UK and faces unrelenting attack from the media and those it has influence over. If I’m in a sinking ship it doesn’t do me any good to attack the iceberg now does it? If every baptised Catholic in the UK started following their religion properly there’d be no inroad for this sort of thing.
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I’m sorry for where you are. And your Crown Prince is such a poor example.

I agree that the Muslim flag will not wave over Buckingham Palace anytime soon, but your country has done a sorry job of stopping these folks. Not your fault.

On the other hand, you have given the rest of us a good pattern NOT to follow.
 
LDN…

I have been exposed to British contempt of the Catholic Church and it is truly acerbic…we see pictures of the wantoness of British sexual mores…and it feeds Muslim radicalism.

How I wish they knew Mary more…you are following the right spirit…work on rebuilding the Church…St. Francis of Assisi is a good model…
 
KathleenGee said:
How I wish they knew Mary more…you are following the right spirit…work on rebuilding the Church…St. Francis of Assisi is a good model…
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He’s not my patron saint for nothing 😉

I agree, Muslims in this country see all the (for want of a better term) ‘‘natives’’ as Christian, so when they see this outrageous behaviour in the secular world it is instantly attributed to Christians and they (quite rightly) desire to limit their contact with that world.

On the other hand it always puts a smile on my face when my Muslim friends ask me why I can’t stay for dinner and I tell them that I’m fasting. They are often surprised that the Christian religion requires fasting, alms-giving etc, or that religious Christians may pray as often as they do.
 
There is absolutely NO reason why any Muslim can not submit to Sharia Law, wherever they may reside. They can do this in the same manner that religious Jews submit to religious courts, but also comply with civil law. As an example, under Jewish Law, you can only get a divorce if the husband agrees. The religious court can take steps to encourage the man to provide a “Get”, but they can not force him to do this.

BUT, religious Jews also go to the Civil Courts and obtain a divorce. The divorce is a legal step, not a religious step. Under Jewish law, the couple is still married in the eyes of God, until a religious divorce is obtained. A religious Jew would never consider remarrying, unless they had also obtained a “Get”. BUT, they would also obtain a Civil Divorce, which would spell out such things as Child Custody, alimony, etc.

There is absolutely no reason why such an arrangement would not suffice for Muslims.

The problem is, they want to impose their religious obligations and believe on to people that are not Muslim.

In the United States, there is absolutely no possibility that Sharia Law could ever be imposed. It would violate the Constitution to impose religious law on anyone.

Were our government to attempt to force this law upon anyone (including Muslims), millions of people would join a citizens militia if necessary to overthrown such a government. It would mean that the Congress had violated their oaths to “Uphold the Constitution of the United States of America”, and the people would have the absolute right to overthrow such a government.
 
Steven_John said:
Hi i used west in the title but i am most keen to hear of your thinking for America, UK, Australia.

What do you think, will it, wont it?
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Possibly. The question is, will it happen before or after the Middle East comes under shari’a law? After all, most Islamic countries are not ruled by shari’a law.
what are you doing to stop it happen?
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Teaching evangelical students about Islam; studying Islam for myself and building relationships with Muslims: arguing with bigots on this forum!

Edwin
 
Contarini said:
Possibly. The question is, will it happen before or after the Middle East comes under shari’a law? After all, most Islamic countries are not ruled by shari’a law.

Teaching evangelical students about Islam; studying Islam for myself and building relationships with Muslims: arguing with bigots on this forum!

Edwin
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May God help your students!

Lambs to the slaughter

Vickie
 
Well It depend on how would you people gonna react upon this Shari’a Laws, if you are going to let it go like in London for example, well it gonna be a mater of time… years…
But if you knew what it is about, a stood against it, than No it’s not gonna happen.

What should be done?
  • People have to know the REAL value of their religion, and how great are the rules that they live by in their countries and know that not all countries have the same laws and regulations, and Freedom.
  • Let the people understand how great is democracy, and that by being under Shari’a Laws means “Bye-Bye democracy”, and welcome “dictatorship”.
The problem is that many people would not care about this stuff until they experience it. It’s maybe because they know nothing about Shri’a Laws, but my advice to them is to learn about it.

If you don’t want your country to be like KSA, or Afghanistan you should know more about these laws…
 
Alcrusader said:
Well It depend on how would you people gonna react upon this Shari’a Laws, if you are going to let it go like in London for example, well it gonna be a mater of time… years…
But if you knew what it is about, a stood against it, than No it’s not gonna happen.
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Tell me about the situation in London mate? Always like a laugh 😛
 
Alcrusader said:
how many Muslims are in London?
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8.5% of Londoners are Muslim. Just under half of the amount that ascribe to no faith, and barely a sixth of the percentage that call themselves Christians.

Your point? If it’s the ‘‘Muslims are breeding for victory!!!’’ panic, save it, London suffered that nonsense 20 years ago when it was the Irish Catholics breeding for victory (Not sure if we won that one).
 
LDNCatholic said:
8.5% of Londoners are Muslim. Just under half of the amount that ascribe to no faith, and barely a sixth of the percentage that call themselves Christians.

Your point? If it’s the ‘‘Muslims are breeding for victory!!!’’ panic, save it, London suffered that nonsense 20 years ago when it was the Irish Catholics breeding for victory (Not sure if we won that one).
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man their difference between Christian-Christian relationship, and Christian-Muslim relationship…

This time is more dangerous to London than the past times… And news we hear here about London is giving couple of years before London becomes 1st capital in Europe that have been islamized…

Many of you people their still see Islam in a rosy glasses…
 
Alcrusader said:
man their difference between Christian-Christian relationship, and Christian-Muslim relationship…

This time is more dangerous to London than the past times… And news we hear here about London is giving couple of years before London becomes 1st capital in Europe that have been islamized…

Many of you people their still see Islam in a rosy glasses…
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Thought Paris was set to become the capital of the first Western European Islamic Republic?
 
LDNCatholic said:
Thought Paris was set to become the capital of the first Western European Islamic Republic?
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Paris is following you…
What d hell, is going their with you people? Never learned from the past? Can’t you see the Anti-Christ?
seems you would like to live under shari’a laws… as dhimmis…

Death to Infidels and Kuffar…!
 
If sharia were to become worldwide, then it would be called anti-christ.
 
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