Will the world try to force the teachings of abortion, same sex marriage,... to the Catholic Church?

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Timi_Celcer said:
ncregister.com/daily-news/u.n.-committee-to-vatican-change-church-teaching/

Looks like the UN is waging war against RCC. The secular world is getting more and more hostile towards the Church and its moral teachings. I don’t want to say this, but the Church may face persecution in the future because of its teachings about abortion, same sex marriage,…
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The further the tyranny of secularism and progressivism and its ideas of “indiscriminateness” expand, you can be quite certain that any idea or institution which claims a contrary morality against that morality of indiscriminateness you can be quite sure that they will attempt to subject the Church to their ideology, by force if necessary.
 
Timi_Celcer said:
ncregister.com/daily-news/u.n.-committee-to-vatican-change-church-teaching/

Looks like the UN is waging war against RCC. The secular world is getting more and more hostile towards the Church and its moral teachings. I don’t want to say this, but the Church may face persecution in the future because of its teachings about abortion, same sex marriage,…
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Won’t be the first time the Catholic Church has faced persecution and probably won’t be the last. God is still the BOSS and He is in control even when it doesn’t look like it. The Church will be the guiding light thru all this as it always has been. Pray for the conversion of all and TRUST GOD. God Bless, Memaw
 
Timi_Celcer said:
ncregister.com/daily-news/u.n.-committee-to-vatican-change-church-teaching/

Looks like the UN is waging war against RCC. The secular world is getting more and more hostile towards the Church and its moral teachings. I don’t want to say this, but the Church may face persecution in the future because of its teachings about abortion, same sex marriage,…
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Yes.

They will try to force their world views on the Catholic Church.

I don’t know how successful they will be.
 
Timi_Celcer said:
ncregister.com/daily-news/u.n.-committee-to-vatican-change-church-teaching/

Looks like the UN is waging war against RCC. The secular world is getting more and more hostile towards the Church and its moral teachings. I don’t want to say this, but the Church may face persecution in the future because of its teachings about abortion, same sex marriage,…
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Persecute is a strong word. The United Nations is not going to burn Catholics at the stake for refusing to support abortion.
 
Timi_Celcer said:
ncregister.com/daily-news/u.n.-committee-to-vatican-change-church-teaching/

Looks like the UN is waging war against RCC. The secular world is getting more and more hostile towards the Church and its moral teachings. I don’t want to say this, but the Church may face persecution in the future because of its teachings about abortion, same sex marriage,…
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The secular world is simply acting as agents of the Devil. Never forget:

[bibledrb]eph 6:12[/bibledrb]
 
I wouldn’t worry a great deal about it. The UN, secular society… have bigger fish to fry than us.
Who or what could that be? Why… themselves of course. Those without an inner spiritual life are empty. They move around like locusts searching for the next meal, cause, or “rush.” The lucky ones will find that God can fill this hole quite nicely given time, effort, patience, works, and yes faith.

When the winds of instant gratification, self absorption, and evil blow, it is the weak leaf or acorn that falls from the tree. Some will find the sunlight again and grow, while others will simply lay forest floor… and rot.
 
Timi_Celcer said:
ncregister.com/daily-news/u.n.-committee-to-vatican-change-church-teaching/

Looks like the UN is waging war against RCC. The secular world is getting more and more hostile towards the Church and its moral teachings. I don’t want to say this, but the Church may face persecution in the future because of its teachings about abortion, same sex marriage,…
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I think the persecution arrived long ago. It was just a bit more silent. Sometimes that is when the devil takes His time to sink His teeth in. Then when things get obvious it is a lot harder to maintain one’s position and ground.
 
DaddyGirl said:
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Will the Catholic church try to force it’s teachings on abortion and same-sex marriage onto the non-Catholic world?

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Nope. We believe in that pesky free-will.

Now if your question is, “will the Catholic Church continue to try to promote its teachings to the world with the intention of gathering as many souls as possible for Our Father’s house?”

I sure hope so. Is that so bad?
 
Cricket2 said:
I think the persecution arrived long ago. It was just a bit more silent. Sometimes that is when the devil takes His time to sink His teeth in. Then when things get obvious it is a lot harder to maintain one’s position and ground.
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Speaking of silence, I must say that I was disappointed that this article was a month old and did not even have 70 shares on Facebook and Twitter combined. Since I do not have an account with either, I must admit that I am part of the problem.

BTW I agree with your post.
 
Timi_Celcer said:
ncregister.com/daily-news/u.n.-committee-to-vatican-change-church-teaching/

Looks like the UN is waging war against RCC. The secular world is getting more and more hostile towards the Church and its moral teachings. I don’t want to say this, but the Church may face persecution in the future because of its teachings about abortion, same sex marriage,…
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Albert Einstein once said that he was not as afraid of the evil of the world as much as those who do nothing about it. Perhaps we as the Church need to wake up more so that we can be heard. It is of no coincidence that these activities of secularists are happening now as the emerging Laities of the Churches of East and West are now called by God to enter this world. The involvement of the Laity as an emerging new force which will propel the world to take notice will occur once the struggles to teach and educate the Laity will be enforced. All these occurrences from secularists are just occurring before the emerging Laity will do their part. Secularists are just ahead of us because the training of the Laity just takes time and once God has His Laity working for Him than you will see what the Laity and the Church can do. This emerging Laity is something new for most of the discipline from the past was given through the clergy and monastics. Not anymore. God is now calling His Laity to become more involved to turn this undisciplined tide of the West back to Him. Give it more time. The emerging Laity is still in formation. Once it comes than watch out for it!
 
DaddyGirl said:
But trying to legally prevent same-sex marriage and abortion is taking away free will…and that is much different than “promoting” the teachings of the church, it is indeed trying to force those teachings upon people who are not Catholic.
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So is outlawing murder, drunk driving, and thousands of other acts. Once upon a time dueling and killing someone who had wronged you was perfectly acceptable to society. It is now outlawed. Should we allow it again because it takes away someone’s free will and forces a behavior they might not agree with?

The laws Catholics want “to force” on people are not about being Catholic, but are laws that (should be) written on every human’s heart. It is only through corruption of the world that so many people accept evil and proclaim it as good. Sometimes laws are passed to slow the rot and decay of a society.
 
In modern society marriage really doesn’t mean much. Everyone lives together and has sex before marriage. And of those who get married half of them get divorced, mostly no fault divorce. So the vows really mean nothing. It seems that people get married anymore because it is just the next step that they feel obligated to make. So what is the gay marriage fight over? No one cares if two gay guys live together. They can do what they want.

The future of marriage is in religion. In 50 years there will be no secular marriage, it will be a religious issue.
 
Timi_Celcer said:
Looks like the UN is waging war against RCC. The secular world is getting more and more hostile towards the Church and its moral teachings. I don’t want to say this, but the Church may face persecution in the future because of its teachings about abortion, same sex marriage,…
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Some one started a thread on this a couple of weeks ago ( forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=859165 ). As far as I can tell throughout western history there has always been pressure applied to get members of society conform to mainstream views. I wonder if it is possible to organize society such that there are no groups that feel that they are being targets of bad intentions or discrimination.
 
DaddyGirl said:
But trying to legally prevent same-sex marriage and abortion is taking away free will…and that is much different than “promoting” the teachings of the church, it is indeed trying to force those teachings upon people who are not Catholic.
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The teachings of the Catholic Church do indeed have the intention of future in heaven. They are such good even from a secular prospective because they maintain a positive link between our behaviors and objective truth. This objective truth is not dependent upon the whims or feelings of each individual person and even by a secular standard, they promote self-disciple and order to prevent a chaotic society.

You said, “Abortion laws are taking freewill.” Do you disagree that the misguided sense of sexual freedom in years since NARAL have manifested in a degraded outlooks of the sanctity of family? Men and women became undisciplined in controlling passions urges, irresponsible in accepting the resulting pregnancy, apathetic about murder, uncaring bout depriving a grandparent or even society of a potentially wonderful person. All of these are exercises of freewill that worship ego-centricism. But freewill could be exercised to align with objective truth for a much more profitable result.

The reason that morally depraved societies (empires) have fallen throughout the centuries is because they are not united thought and function for the strength of the society. Whether oppression or individually serving debauchery, the result is the same; we cannot stand when divided by each person serving their own subjective truth, refuse obedience, and act with pride rather than humility. This truth is taught is the Bible, sure, but it is also taught by human history.
 
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