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mark_a
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Or will we understand everything once we get to heaven?
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lpioch
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No need for bible studies in heaven, as we will be in perfect union with The Word himself.
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Nita
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Well, I hope there will be. I like studying/learning. I’m looking forward to Jesus being the instructor and Mary there to help me and fellow classmates understand the toughies!!!
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peregrinus_sg
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There will be no Bible, no Tradition, no Sacraments in heaven because these are given by God to men for their journey on earth.
As for liking to study, I think I like to study because it deepens my knowledge of the truth. Since in heaven we’ll gaze on he who is the Truth, there will be union with Truth and there will be no need to study.
As for liking to study, I think I like to study because it deepens my knowledge of the truth. Since in heaven we’ll gaze on he who is the Truth, there will be union with Truth and there will be no need to study.
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Milliardo
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Being in the presence of God, for eternity, is worth more than a thousand Bible studies. There’s no need to have such studies in heaven, in short; the mere thought of being with God is more than enough.
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Nita
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Ah, but the main reason and joy in doing a Bible study is to get to know God better. I don’t expect that prior to death I’ll have unveiled all the knowledge about God contained in Scripture. So I feel quite sure that if I desire God to reveal to me all the wonders contained in Scripture (that I never managed to discover), He’ll be ever so happy to do so. Also, to explain to me all the passages I’ve puzzled over for years. Now maybe you think all that is going to happen in one instantaneous flash after death. Somehow I don’t think so. (By the way, I don’t think we’re going to have a physical book we’ll sit with in heaven.)
We will NEVER know God totally - we’d have to BE God for that to happen. I think it’s possible for our knowledge to experience increase as we dwell in heaven. We’re not going to be just sitting around mentally inert with a smile on our face for all eternity!!!
We will NEVER know God totally - we’d have to BE God for that to happen. I think it’s possible for our knowledge to experience increase as we dwell in heaven. We’re not going to be just sitting around mentally inert with a smile on our face for all eternity!!!
po18guy
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On that blessed day, I will roll up my bible and SMOKE IT! I will throw it in the mud and stand on it to get a better view - except there is no better view. If Jesus and the Twelve did not need a bible, neither will you. It most certainly will not be needed in Heaven. Heaven is the totality of all Godly desire. Perfection for eternity. The Book is very useful on earth, but do not make the mistake of depending totally upon it. Which is greater: the bible or Jesus Christ? Your answer.
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Nita
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I guess my view (even definition) of the Bible is different from most of the posters here.
To me the “Bible” **is the truths **God has chosen to reveal about Himself, His will, His activity in human history, … Right now ink and paper is one of the means used to communicate these truths to us. When Jesus was alive, His voice and sound waves were the means.
I know the word “Bible” literally means “book”, but that is not the primary meaning when we use that word. For example, we speak of a Bible tape or CD. It’s the content; the words - words that reveal the Word. “In the beginning was the Word, …” I think all that “content” (the “Bible”) will still be in heaven to be absorbed, pondered, understood further.
I’d never take the paper and ink that contained the “Bible” and throw it in the mud; or roll it up and smoke it. I’d burn a US flag way before I’d ever do that.
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po18guy
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The bible is inspired. The bible is inerrant. The bible is also horribly incomplete. It says so in at least four places (Lk 3:18. Jn 20:30/21:25, Acts 2:40). The tragedy of the Protestant rebellion is that millions now have only the book. Christ did not write a book. He did not read from a book (only scrolls in the Temple). He never authorized the writing of a book. He did not command His disciples to have a book. Christ taught live, and passed that perfect teaching form on to His Apostles.
The book is 50% max of Christ. He is not a leaf pressed between the pages of a book. He is living Flesh and Blood! I eat His Flesh, I drink His Blood, as He Himself commanded. I carry Him in me. I spend time in prayer with others before Him. Christ is with us in the Eucharist. Until Christ returns, the Eucharist is the only reason to be Christian. There is nothing more Heavenly on earth.
And yet, millions reject Christ in the Eucharist, because He’s in the Catholic church. These are the same that left Him in John 6:66. The tragedy of the Protestant rebellion. Many now even worship the book, because they have only the image, the concept of Christ. His reality they reject, because it means becoming Catholic. Lord, have mercy!
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NotWorthy
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I think our good po18 is using hyperbole to show how great it would be to actually be with God in eternity. But he does bring to mind a good point.
Why gaze upon a picture of the sunset when you can actually watch the sunset. Nothing the Bible can tell me about Jesus approaches what I will see and learn about Him in Heaven. The Bible may help me to take in all my feeble little mind can absorb. But the mind will be able to contain much more in heaven than it can ever hope to contain here.
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Nita
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And PLEASE, Lord, let it remember what it contains, for a much longer time in heaven than it does here on earth. Amen.
po18guy
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My first post might have been a tiny bit hyperbolic (not much), but my second was not at all. Christ in the Flesh is everything - heaven on earth. Oh, that others could sample the goodness of Christ’s Flesh.
Christ’s peace.
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Robin_L.in_TX
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I’m with Nita. I can’t imagine anything cooler than actually seeing the beginning of the universe, or Abram setting out from Ur? Did God really speak to him, or was it an internal thing? Did the bush really burn, or was it just glowing unnaturally? Was manna miraculously given, or was it miraculously given through the slime trails left by insects?
Is man really evolved from primates? And won’t if be fun to see the faces of fundamentalists who find it hard to fathom?
Did people share at the miraculous multiplication (though if they did they couldn’t have had no food as the gospels state)?
Was John the author of Revelation, Gospel of John, and the Letters? And were they actual tongues of flame that descended at Pentecost, and did everyone really hear Peter in their own tongues, or did they just understand that he had been touched by God and worthy of being listened to?
Don’t you just want to be an eyewitness to Elijah calling God’s flames down upon the sacrifice at Carmel, Jesus’ Baptism, Transfiguration, and even the Crucifixion?
Don’t you just want to sit at Mary’s feet and listen to stories of Jesus when He was young, or of the saints–St. Francis, St. Augustine, Padre Pio, etc.?
I know that there are those who say we will be miraculously in the know, but we will still be creatures with limitations, even though less so there than here, and God is infinite which leads to the thought that we will forever be learning more about Him.
Right or wrong, as much as I love studying His Word and learning more about Him, I also trust that we will be infinitely more happy with our Lord forever in Heaven.
Nita, if there IS a Bible Study in Heaven for those who love studying our Lord, I want to be next to you. I can see us now oohing and ahing, a couple of God’s groupies in our milieu. (No disrespect meant, only a maximum of awe.)
In Christ’s peace and joy,
Robin
Is man really evolved from primates? And won’t if be fun to see the faces of fundamentalists who find it hard to fathom?
Did people share at the miraculous multiplication (though if they did they couldn’t have had no food as the gospels state)?
Was John the author of Revelation, Gospel of John, and the Letters? And were they actual tongues of flame that descended at Pentecost, and did everyone really hear Peter in their own tongues, or did they just understand that he had been touched by God and worthy of being listened to?
Don’t you just want to be an eyewitness to Elijah calling God’s flames down upon the sacrifice at Carmel, Jesus’ Baptism, Transfiguration, and even the Crucifixion?
Don’t you just want to sit at Mary’s feet and listen to stories of Jesus when He was young, or of the saints–St. Francis, St. Augustine, Padre Pio, etc.?
I know that there are those who say we will be miraculously in the know, but we will still be creatures with limitations, even though less so there than here, and God is infinite which leads to the thought that we will forever be learning more about Him.
Right or wrong, as much as I love studying His Word and learning more about Him, I also trust that we will be infinitely more happy with our Lord forever in Heaven.
Nita, if there IS a Bible Study in Heaven for those who love studying our Lord, I want to be next to you. I can see us now oohing and ahing, a couple of God’s groupies in our milieu. (No disrespect meant, only a maximum of awe.)
In Christ’s peace and joy,
Robin
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AHapka
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We will not have perfect knowledge in Heaven. If the saints are still asking the Lord questions, that implies that their knowledge is imperfect:
“When he broke open the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slaughtered because of the witness they bore to the word of God. They cried out in a loud voice, “How long will it be, holy and true master, before you sit in judgment and avenge our blood on the inhabitants of the earth?”” (Revelation 6:9-10).
However, I don’t think that there will be a need for bible studies since the bible is the word, and those in Heaven will be able to talk to the word Himself!
“When he broke open the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slaughtered because of the witness they bore to the word of God. They cried out in a loud voice, “How long will it be, holy and true master, before you sit in judgment and avenge our blood on the inhabitants of the earth?”” (Revelation 6:9-10).
However, I don’t think that there will be a need for bible studies since the bible is the word, and those in Heaven will be able to talk to the word Himself!
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Nita
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jcrichton
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Hi, Nita!
I understand your concern… but Scriptures tell us otherwise:
Dearly beloved, we are now the sons of God: and it hath not yet appeared what we shall be. We know that when he shall appear we shall be like to him: because we shall see him as he is. (1 St. John 3:2)
We see now through a glass in a dark manner: but then face to face. Now I know in part: but then I shall know even as I am known. (1 Corinthians 13:12)
Both St. John and St. Paul reveal to us that we will be as God; when Jesus Returns He will bring us into the fulness of God. Does that mean that we will know everything? Yes! But only to the point that God determines. Would that mean that we would know all that we need to know? Exactly!
Paul expands this a little:
8 Charity never falleth away: whether prophecies shall be made void or tongues shall cease or knowledge shall be destroyed. 9 For we know in part: and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, that which is in part shall be done away. (1 Corinthians 13:8-10)
Only Love (Agape) will be useful/necessary; everything else will pass away as we will remain in the presence of God and in God.
I believe that once we know and are in God knowledge will be fluid and we will drink from God’s Fountain till we are sated.
Maran atha!
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tobinatorstark
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Bible study probably doesn’t exist per se. From what I gather in Revelation we pay homage to God in the most humble ways. Always knelt and praying before God and living up to what the Bible expresses in the teachings. I would assume heaven would go way beyond the Bible.
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joshua1
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My impression is that there will be no Bible in Heaven. Christ will tell us plainly what we want to know. The Bible is a revelation of the mind of God. We will see God as he is, no need for scripture. We will have the beautific vision and will understand all things. We will have the living WORD.
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