Witches Shun O'Donnell

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I understand Delaware has a good many Pagans in the Tea Party movement this wasn’t a smart move at all on her part.

A Pagan News Blog The Wild Hunt has this on it Link to The Wild Hunt

I think I can post this blog as it links to several Mainstream Media sources.
 
Pagans weren’t going to vote for her anyway. Republican Pagans? In Delaware? This might add up to sixteen or seventeen lost votes.

I’d be interested in seeing stats to the contrary, if they exist.
 
Pagans weren’t going to vote for her anyway. Republican Pagans? In Delaware? This might add up to sixteen or seventeen lost votes.

I’d be interested in seeing stats to the contrary, if they exist.
I believe there is a bit more than that. Heck one Tea Party Candidate in office is a Pagan who belongs to a tradition that does human sacrifice. There use to be thousands of Conservative Pagans but the attitudes of conservatives keep running them off.
 
I believe there is a bit more than that. Heck one Tea Party Candidate in office is a Pagan who belongs to a tradition that does human sacrifice. There use to be thousands of Conservative Pagans but the attitudes of conservatives keep running them off.
You’re saying O’Donnell is obligated to support the belief she has now since long ago rejected?

So they’re shunning her for something she never totally embraced???:confused:
 
You’re saying O’Donnell is obligated to support the belief she has now since long ago rejected?

So they’re shunning her for something she never totally embraced???:confused:
From what I gather she mocks it actively. Reject is one thing, actively mocking it is another.
 
Ya know … you don’t want to fool around with preternatural spirits.

Of course, perhaps HER magick is stronger than theirs and maybe she could turn her opponents into frogs (or toads) (or newts).

brribbit ]
 
Ya know … you don’t want to fool around with preternatural spirits.

Of course, perhaps HER magick is stronger than theirs and maybe she could turn her opponents into frogs (or toads) (or newts).

brribbit ]
“SHE TURNED ME INTO A NEWT!”

“A newt!?”

“I got bettah…”
 
From what I gather she mocks it actively. Reject is one thing, actively mocking it is another.
Ok, so she mocks Witchcraft----and?

I know several Witches (male and female) and most of them like to mock Christianity once in a while. Being that Christianity represents (to many of them) a male-dominated religion that rapes the Natural World and oppresses women and almost everyone else. Again----she mocks Witchcraft—so what?
 
Ok, so she mocks Witchcraft----and?

I know several Witches (male and female) and most of them like to mock Christianity once in a while. Being that Christianity represents (to many of them) a male-dominated religion that rapes the Natural World and oppresses women and almost everyone else. Again----she mocks Witchcraft—so what?
Just because some witches mock Christianity (which most witches see as a very childish act that most grow out of) does mean everyone does, nor should it be shocking if those that don’t find such mockery of themselves childish. Just because a member of another faith mocks yours doesn’t mean you should mock an entire group of people back.
 
Just because some witches mock Christianity (which most witches see as a very childish act that most grow out of) does mean everyone does, nor should it be shocking if those that don’t find such mockery of themselves childish. Just because a member of another faith mocks yours doesn’t mean you should mock an entire group of people back.
The fact that BOTH sides mock each other’s beliefs (however wrong each side considers the other) is bad enough. I do not condone it. Does not mean that one needs to belittle what this woman is going through. You don’t agree with her----absolutely fine with me. But that does not give the people ostensibly on YOUR side the right to mock her and what she is going through just as much as she has not right to mock your sides.

You seem to enjoy the fact that witches reject her. Fine. But they seem mostly to reject her because she treats their religion the same way they treat hers. So it is Ok for them to do that and not ok for her to do it???

So because you and other witches SUBJECTIVELY think that Christianity is “Childish” you think it is Ok to mock an Ancient Religion and its adherents?

But when Christians mock YOUR Ancient Religion it is wrong??? I’m just ponting out the contradiction here.

BOTH sides are wrong to mock here. You are allowing your dislike of Christianity to get the better of you. Your friends are also being arrogantly dismissive in their opinion of Christianity as being “childish.” A Christian could say the same thing about Witchcraft and its adherents. Don’t you see that?
 
The issue among pagans isn’t so much that she rejects a religion she once “dabbled” in. It was her ignorant portrayal of what she was doing as “witchcraft.” What she represented as witchcraft would not be recognized as such by any mainstream, mature authentic practioners of the craft in its many forms. It would be like me saying I used to be Catholic and then describing some nonsense from a Jack Chick cartoon and representing that as a real experience of Catholicism.

The other thing we must keep in mind about the Tea Party is that it is basically a populist catch basin of discontent. It’s ideology is a dynamic mix of things people are unhappy with in the current system. There are a lot of different things to be unhappy about, and few of them add up into any cohesive platform. There are regular folks with legitimate grievances in the Tea Party. There are also any number of whackjob conspiracy theorists, apocalyptic militia types and outright white supremecists. There are libertarians on the one hand and Christian dominionists on the other.

It is supposed that most pagans are liberals, and to a degree that is true, but there are plenty of conservatives too, especially among Nordic traditions, and so far as I have seen, the ceremonial magick community - ie OTO. They obviously aren’t going along with the neocons who want to impose a Christianists theocracy in this country, but they do make up a significant portion of the libertarian/fiscal conservatives.

The prospects of the Tea Party being a legitimate workable solution to discontent are not good. Populism breeds a lot of violent revolutions and extreme nationalist movements but never any sustainable solutions. The candidates it attracts are sometimes brilliant orators and invariably saavy opportunists who know how to play to discontent but have no real skills or desire to engage the hideously complex problems of governance.
 
The fact that BOTH sides mock each other’s beliefs (however wrong each side considers the other) is bad enough. I do not condone it. Does not mean that one needs to belittle what this woman is going through. You don’t agree with her----absolutely fine with me. But that does not give the people ostensibly on YOUR side the right to mock her and what she is going through just as much as she has not right to mock your sides.

You seem to enjoy the fact that witches reject her. Fine. But they seem mostly to reject her because she treats their religion the same way they treat hers. So it is Ok for them to do that and not ok for her to do it???

So because you and other witches SUBJECTIVELY think that Christianity is “Childish” you think it is Ok to mock an Ancient Religion and its adherents?

But when Christians mock YOUR Ancient Religion it is wrong??? I’m just ponting out the contradiction here.

BOTH sides are wrong to mock here. You are allowing your dislike of Christianity to get the better of you. Your friends are also being arrogantly dismissive in their opinion of Christianity as being “childish.” A Christian could say the same thing about Witchcraft and its adherents. Don’t you see that?
Nice try but what actually said was:
Just because some witches mock Christianity (which most witches see as a very childish act that most grow out of)
I.E. the mocking of Christianity is childish. After all Christianity is a faith not an act.

But hey any excuse to put on our victim hats right?

Normally I’d assume you misunderstood me. But here most will twist my words to readily.
 
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