Women are the world's 'pragmatic responders'

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Am I the only one who finds this article a little cringe worthy?

ewtnnews.com/catholic-news/Vatican.php?id=8620#ixzz2hk26uBBz

It feels like the women just want to say how “great” they are. Where is the humility? Where is God? What happened to taking an example from the Blessed Mother and saying “The almighty has done great things for me” instead of saying how they did great things? Where have all the humble women gone?

The problem with women from society deciding what the role of women should be is that they already come from the distorted culture. Then they try to work out what the Church should do to help them out. Whose to say that the distortion will not creep in to the Church then?

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I had a completely different reaction than you did. I saw nothing cringeworthy in the article, and found it to be quite Catholic in tone.
 
Jaberwocky said:
Am I the only one who finds this article a little cringe worthy?

ewtnnews.com/catholic-news/Vatican.php?id=8620#ixzz2hk26uBBz

It feels like the women just want to say how “great” they are. Where is the humility? Where is God? What happened to taking an example from the Blessed Mother and saying “The almighty has done great things for me” instead of saying how they did great things? Where have all the humble women gone?

The problem with women from society deciding what the role of women should be is that they already come from the distorted culture. Then they try to work out what the Church should do to help them out. Whose to say that the distortion will not creep in to the Church then?

Discuss!
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Yes, this kind of thing gets a bit over-the-top sometimes.
 
I thought the article was more pointing out that women have a role in the Church that is unique and important. This is not new, and it is not out of line from Catholic teaching. Note that the article didn’t diminish the role of men.
It is theologically and anthropologically important for woman to be at the center of Christianity. Through Mary, and the other holy women, the feminine element stand at the heart of the Christian religion. ~Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI
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Unless you have a problem with the kind of women who run Project Rachel then I can’t see anything wrong with this article.
 
triumphguy said:
Unless you have a problem with the kind of women who run Project Rachel then I can’t see anything wrong with this article.
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Interesting. Very interesting. I guess it shows the influence of our culture?
 
Jaberwocky said:
Interesting. Very interesting. I guess it shows the influence of our culture?
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I don’t know what your comment means.

But, I too found nothing objectionable in this article, and I’m very happy for the work these women provide.

As I was reading your initial post, it occurred to me that your comment seems to suggest that these women misunderstand their role in this world. I wonder: Have you ever looked at men and thought the same thing?

Pax,
OA
 
Jaberwocky said:
Am I the only one who finds this article a little cringe worthy?

ewtnnews.com/catholic-news/Vatican.php?id=8620#ixzz2hk26uBBz

It feels like the women just want to say how “great” they are. Where is the humility? Where is God? What happened to taking an example from the Blessed Mother and saying “The almighty has done great things for me” instead of saying how they did great things? Where have all the humble women gone?

The problem with women from society deciding what the role of women should be is that they already come from the distorted culture. Then they try to work out what the Church should do to help them out. Whose to say that the distortion will not creep in to the Church then?

Discuss!
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Yes it’s cringe worthy and stupid.
 
Orleans_Attny said:
I don’t know what your comment means.

But, I too found nothing objectionable in this article, and I’m very happy for the work these women provide.

As I was reading your initial post, it occurred to me that your comment seems to suggest that these women misunderstand their role in this world. I wonder: Have you ever looked at men and thought the same thing?
Pax,
OA
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Have you ever seen a conference dedicated to the purpose of praising men?
 
McCall1981 said:
Have you ever seen a conference dedicated to the purpose of praising men?
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Of course. And if you haven’t, I suspect you haven’t been paying attention. But I don’t really see how your rhetorical question is responsive to the one I posed. Though, in all fairness, that question was posted to another poster.

Pax,
OA
 
Orleans_Attny said:
Of course. And if you haven’t, I suspect you haven’t been paying attention. But I don’t really see how your rhetorical question is responsive to the one I posed. Though, in all fairness, that question was posted to another poster.

Pax,
OA
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There are conferences and documents and such that praise men, but not that praise men for being men (or at least extremely few compared to that of women). For instance, the Pope recently thanked and praised the Knights of Columbus (men), but they were praised for the good work that they do, not for being men (which is how it should be).

I think the work of women in something like Project Rachel is absolutely fantastic and they deserve all the recognition and praise in the world as people for the great work that they do. The fact that one is a man or women is incidental to the good work itself.
 
triumphguy said:
Unless you have a problem with the kind of women who run Project Rachel then I can’t see anything wrong with this article.
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Rachel’s Vineyard is funded by Priests for Life. Rachel’s Vineyard has a broadly Roman Catholic ethos with a Catholic mass celebrated as an integral part of the retreat, but also runs non-denominational retreats for non-Catholics.
 
Orleans_Attny said:
Of course. And if you haven’t, I suspect you haven’t been paying attention. But I don’t really see how your rhetorical question is responsive to the one I posed. Though, in all fairness, that question was posted to another poster.

Pax,
OA
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Really? I’d like to attend where is it?
 
SamH said:
Really? I’d like to attend where is it?
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You’re kidding. Our friendly google returns oodles of Catholic Men Conferences and Catholic Men’s Leadership Conferences.

Heck, almost every confirmation class I’ve seen in the last several years has given the boys the book: Be a Man by Fr. Larry Richards. (BTW, I hear it’s a great book).

Yet, what some in this post fail to grasp is that these sorts of conference discussions are most important in the context of disadvantaged people. Why do people feel threatened by conversations about women’s role in the Church or Catholic women’s leadership or women’s ministry? Highlighting the role of women and encouraging women to take leadership roles takes nothing away from the importance of men within the Church. This isn’t a zero-sum game.

Pax,
OA
 
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