WOMEN ONLY: Your "opinions" on Women Ordination

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Sean is absolutely correct. Appointed, Christian women were spoken of as deaconess. But no woman was ever appointed as a Bishop or an elder of a church. As I posted earlier, Paul the beloved apostle said the Bishop must be the HUSBAND of one WIFE and rule his household well. Also a woman is NOT to usurp authority over the man. And Paul was clearly speaking of women’s role both at home and in the church.
 
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Hieronymus:
Is there any serious catholics who think that there are need for a women ordination?
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Nope. …not even one.

The only catholics you will find who think that way are not serious catholics.
they are most likely "salaried catholics " who aspire to rise up to the salary and power of a priest.

I can not find anywhere in the bible where it is writte about a priestess or deaconess.

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dwc said:
the church’s reasoning seems to boil down to: Christ only ordained men and we have always done it this way.
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Well of course! Can you think of a better argument? If you believe that Christ was who he said he was, and if you believe that the Church is his Church, what other argument do you need? I myself would never be so brave as to contradict a form instituted by God himself – though, I don’t think bravery has anything to do with it.
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dwc:
It seems entirely feasible to me that Christ didn’t ordain women because of the cultural roles played at that time and women wouldn’t have been accepted as spiritual leaders. Of course, there’s no way to definitively know this.
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Someone said this before, but it has to be said again: this is absolutely the weakest argument for the ordination of women.

Almost everything Christ taught, beyond his moral teaching, was counter-cultural. Christ did the most shocking thing imaginable: he claimed to be God. What this argument claims is that he went to his death for teaching The Truth but, oddly enough, he didn’t ordain women because he didn’t want to offend certain people. How could that possibly be? What that really amounts to is calling Jesus a sexist and a coward, both of which he certainly was not.
 
"Priestess" is a pagan concept. Just look at the Ancient pagan practices, the modern occult practice it too. No where in the traditional Judeo-Christian religion have there been a women clergy. Neither do Muslims believe in a woman clergy. That is a modern heretical liberal invention and must be abolished.
 
I am in the 16 age group and do not think women should be ordained. My logic is this: If God says no, let’s not do it.
 
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gusano:
I can not find anywhere in the bible where it is writte about a priestess or deaconess.

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gusano
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"Deaconesses
We cannot be sure that any formal recognition of deaconesses as an institution of consecrated women aiding the clergy is to be found in the New Testament. There is indeed the mention of Phebe (Romans 16:1), who is called diakonos, but this may simply mean, as the Vulgate renders it, that she was “in the ministry * of the Church”, without implying any official status. Again, it is not improbable that the “widows” who are spoken of at large in I Timothy 5:3-10, may really have been deaconesses, but here again we have nothing conclusive. That some such functionaries were appointed at an early date seems probable from Pliny’s letter to Trajan concerning the Christians of Bithynia (Ep. X, 97, AD 112) There he speaks of obtaining information by torture from two ancillae quae ministrae dicebantur, where a technical use of words seems to be implied. In any case there can be no question that before the middle of the fourth century women were permitted to exercise certain definite functions in the Church and were known by the special name of diakonoi or diakonissai.

www.newadvent.org"

I know women can not be ordained and I find no fault in that. I am just supplying this so that everything is out in the open. The objective truth.*
 
I personally get irritated with people who don’t think the role women have in the Church is enough. Some of the greatest work done by people in the Church was done by WOMEN! Hello, MARY! It can’t and won’t ever happen, and I say AMEN to that. Oh, I am 32.
 
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AmyS:
I personally get irritated with people who don’t think the role women have in the Church is enough. Some of the greatest work done by people in the Church was done by WOMEN! Hello, MARY! It can’t and won’t ever happen, and I say AMEN to that. Oh, I am 32.
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:clapping: :whistle: :amen:
 
I am aware that that “unmarried priests” and “male priests” are two separate issues. I do know that “male” cannot be changed, (God’s law) “married or non-married” can be. (Church law). I was simply stating, tongue in cheek, “It ain’t gonna happen” …(either one, married priests and /or female priests) I really think most Catholics are aware of the teachings, at least those of us who attend Mass and are active members of the Catholic Church. Our “opinion” really does not matter. Again, I am being very “simplistic”, but my degree is in Economics, not Theology.

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Mom
 
Women AND men are called by their baptism to live a life a service and called to be Christlike. That’s ALL women and men, not just some…some women and some men are called to ordained ministry and I pray for ALL of us to understand that.
 
WOW! I am amazed at all of the young men that voted no. Thank you Benedict XVI!
 
Have any of you wondered why there are no MEN priests in the seminaries all over the world? I believe the answer is staring us all in the face…because HE intends there to be women priests. Until the church listens, there will be few men applying.

I believe completely that this will take place. In my lifetime? Perhaps not. But because I believe it and that Christ will make it happen, there is no need to argue about it.

Those who think otherwise should ask themselves the question, why there are no priest candidates.
 
(for the same reason there aren’t a lot of people becomming nuns anymore either - religion just doesn’t draw people anymore, men or women)
 
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CSpaulding:
Have any of you wondered why there are no MEN priests in the seminaries all over the world? I believe the answer is staring us all in the face…because HE intends there to be women priests. Until the church listens, there will be few men applying.

I believe completely that this will take place. In my lifetime? Perhaps not. But because I believe it and that Christ will make it happen, there is no need to argue about it.

Those who think otherwise should ask themselves the question, why there are no priest candidates.
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What are you talking about ?

Trick
 
I don’t understand what the big deal people make about women being ordained. We have a bunch of yahoos in BC here that are making a stink about it again…

Personally, I would never give up my God-given gift of womanhood (and the potential of motherhood) just to be a priest. If given a choice between being a mom or being a priest, I would pick mom without hesitation.

I always thought of it as a trade off… guys can’t have babies, so God let them be priests instead. 😃
 
There are quite a few passages of scripture that make it quite clear that the earliest church ministers were men (or, at least the last time I checked, the role of husband can only be filled by a man). Granted, these don’t refer specifically to priests, but one could easily infer from the context that priests are covered by these verses, as well.

1 Timothy 3:2
Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
1 Timothy 3:1-3 (in Context) 1 Timothy 3 (Whole Chapter)

1 Timothy 3:12
A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.
1 Timothy 3:11-13 (in Context) 1 Timothy 3 (Whole Chapter)

Titus 1:6
An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.
Titus 1:5-7 (in Context) Titus 1 (Whole Chapter)
 
I have a friend who carries on about this issue. She somehow sees it as a slap in her face that she cannot be a priest. She was terribly offended over the funeral for John Paul II because there were no women there in power and authority. It makes me laugh really. It is as if God insulted us by giving us myriad roles to play. single woman, career woman, nun or sister, lector, Eucharistic minister, RCIA leader, laundress, cook, student, daughter, wife, mother, grandmother, mother in law, bathroom cleaner, banker, business owner, charity director, spiritual director, catechism teacher, housekeeper, shopper, listener, contemplator, meditator, intermediary, prayer, assistor, doctor, lawyer, gardener, veterinarian, etc, etc. Certainly, I say to her, how much power, authority, and control can any woman use in her lifetime? The list is almost insatiable as it is. May God spare me many more hats to wear. I don’t even have time to put the hats I have on straight. 😃
 
I am 50+ and you ran out of space in this poll for my opinion! (please post):

:mad: I am a convert! One of the many things I had to relate to in that prosess was that the catholic church didn’t ordain women. I felt that was a strange thing at that time (in the prosess forward to the catholic church, but still not catholic at that time).

Why? Are not woman as good as men?

I found the answer in the twelve apostles and in the apostolic succession. Jesus chose twelve men !!!

Jesus did so many things that didn’t please the society. If he had meant women to be priests I think he would have chosen at least two or three women among the twelve. **He didn’t do that!! **

There are so many other ways we woman can contribute to the the best for the CHURCH. Love and dignity as human beings are not related to positions (neither for men nor for women)!! We don’t have to be priests to have dignity or to be good (and remember to be a priest is not first and foremost about power. We can’t denie that there is power connected to being a priest. But that power is not to be misused). To be a priest is to serve!

If women aren’t pleased with the ways God want us to serve **HIM **, perhaps it’s time to take a better look on ourselves. Perhaps that men that want womenpriests should take a better look on themselves too. And perhaps both men and women should read Gn 3:1 & 3:6-7 once more: "Now the serpent was more subtle than any of the beasts of the earth which the Lord God had made. … And the woman saw that the tree was good to eat, and fair to the eyes, and delightful to behold: and she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave to her husband who did eat. And the eyes of them both were opened: and when they perceived themselves to be naked … "

Perhaps it’s a good idea to remember that “the serpent was more subtle than any of the beasts”: “Has God really said no to women-priests? You will sure not die if you do it your way? Oh isn’t it delightful with a woman-priest in front of the Church?” Or …???

Another point that I think shall have a heavy weight, is that the Church is the bride of Christ. A bride can’t have a female bridegroom.

When you convert it’s not a “pick and chose”- thing. It’s a wholehearted YES or NO to the CHURCH ❤️ Jesus Christ founded!

I said **YES ** :yup: to be a catholic and that means NO :nope: to women-priests!
 
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