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Tolle_Lege
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Who can imagine entering the confessional and saying, “Bless me mother, for I have sinned.” No thanks.
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thistle
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It is not a case of not in our lifetimes. The answer is that it will NEVER happen because it is not possible.
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VanitasVanitatum
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That’s not a compelling argument. I’d recommend finding a different one.
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Tolle_Lege
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It wasn’t supposed to be a whole argument, but an example of how ridiculous the whole concept is.
Besides, I shouldn’t have to present an argument for something the Church has already made crystal clear. If folks want to attend worship led by a female “priest,” they have plenty of options outside of the Catholic Church.
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VanitasVanitatum
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It doesn’t do a good job of that either.
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Tolle_Lege
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Maybe not for you. I’m sure plenty of people who respect the Church’s teaching agree with me.
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ZMystiCat
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Because I’m feeling a bit glib, Catholics had Mass in the vernacular before Anglicans existed. We just kind of got stuck in Latin for a while. Even then, Lutherans had services in the vernacular before King Henry VIII decided he preferred adultery to sanctity, and I’m pretty sure there were pre-Lutheran movements calling for the same.
Likewise, we had married priests well before an English king decided to set himself up as head of a heavenly kingdom. We still do, but it’s not that common. And again, I’m pretty sure the Lutherans beat the Anglicans to this, and others before them.
Now female priests I will give them, though other Protestant groups had female leads before the Anglicans.
Also, change is not automatically good. Maybe it is if you’re the villain in a Hey Arnold movie, but it isn’t inherently good. For instance, the Anglicans also “pioneered” separating from Christ’s Church. Of course, I’m using “pioneer” in the incredibly loose sense of the quoted Anglican.
When I was in Seattle, I remember the priest of my parish commenting that one of the priests in the diocese was a converted Lutheran priest and was allowed to be a priest in the Church despite being married. With that said, the priest at my parish said that priest actually was for priestly celibacy, of course adding, “I wonder what his wife thinks of that.”
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Delphinus
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Yep, that’s the guy! 
He’s pretty open about it. He mentioned that he supports celibacy because even with his kids grown and gone, just trying to maintain a healthy marriage while being a priest is hard.
He’s pretty open about it. He mentioned that he supports celibacy because even with his kids grown and gone, just trying to maintain a healthy marriage while being a priest is hard.
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0Scarlett_nidiyilii
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Meh, non-believers like to taunt believers all the time, saying we’re on the wrong side of history, predicting the demise of the Catholic Church if we don’t fall in line with the “real world”, etc.
In one :ear:t2: and out the other.
In one :ear:t2: and out the other.
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Brendan
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There already is one, the Church has infallibly stated that it is not possible, Christ did not give the Church the authority to do so.
It falls under that same category of the Pope changing the moon into green cheese simply by issuing an encyclical.
It is possible for God to do that? Yes. Did God give the Church that authority, nope.
Neither did He give the Pope authority to ordain women.
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Tolle_Lege
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The Vatican approves automatic excommunication for any woman “ordaining” herself, or any bishop “ordaining” a woman.
Below, we see 23 lost souls whose own pride was more important than following the teachings of Holy Mother Church.
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Above, we see an example of prideful women who have placed their own understanding of Holy Orders over the Church’s.
Below, we see 23 lost souls whose own pride was more important than following the teachings of Holy Mother Church.
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Above, we see an example of prideful women who have placed their own understanding of Holy Orders over the Church’s.
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Scott84
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After the upcoming Amazon Synod, that may very well change and married priests could become the norm.
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edwest211
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It will be possible to find Catholics who disagree with this teaching but they should be corrected.
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edwest211
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Definitely not.
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dochawk
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What an ignorant thing for a johny-come-lately to say.
The Eastern churches have used the vernacular pretty much exclusively since the First Century, while Rome switched to the vernacular over the course of the third and fourth centuries . . . a full millennium before such “pioneers” . . .
There are deaconess to this day in at least one EC and one EO church, and others are looking at reviving them.
Note that they are not simply female deacons. They typically share the service roles of deacons, but not the liturgical roles. (again, this is a simplification).
There have been threads on this in the last couple of months.
There are folks on this forum who insist it was in Latin, or at least that it was “probably” or “mostly” in Latin. Or at lent liturgical Hebrew instead of Aramaic . .
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Thom18
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For the faithful in the Amazon, perhaps- not for the rest of us who aren’t in the unique situation that these Catholics find themselves in.Delphinus:
After the upcoming Amazon Synod, that may very well change and married priests could become the norm.
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jack63
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Agreed.
This article was about the best way to pursue ecumenism. It was written by a married Catholic priest. The quote in the original post seems to be taken out of context. The quote was meant as an example of how not to do ecumenism.
Also, while I believe Father Longenecker did have an Anglican or two tell him this to his face, he certainly gave no sources as to the origin of the quote.
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