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netmilsmom
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Do you wear your scapular on the outside of your clothing?
If you are covering your head to show the world an outward sign of interior humility, why would a chapel cap not be enough?
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If you are covering your head to show the world an outward sign of interior humility, why would a chapel cap not be enough?
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Forest-Pine
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I can think of several other parts of my body that God gave me that I prefer to keep covered.
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palmas85
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Not being female I can’t say with any certainty, but I would imagine many women would see the wearing of a mantilla or a veil as indicating submissiveness of some sort and thus not in line with current feminist thinking.
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YinYangMom
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Well heck, that’s just out of plain modesty…we cover those everywhere we go…but our heads? Why in church but not anywhere else then…what is on your head that requires covering for what reason…I just don’t get it.
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netmilsmom
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Did you read post 64?
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YinYangMom
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netmil(name removed by moderator):
The Catholic church continues to teach on the revelations of God’s Word and we trust them in that. Over time, they gain a deeper understanding of the meaning of certain letters, stories and they reflect the deeper understanding by changing the norms by which we worship.
When they removed the requirement to cover our heads it was because they came to a new understanding of a past practice. To continue the practice, for me, would be to reject the Church’s teaching and deeper understanding of the faith.
Yes. It’s a quote from 1 Corinthians pertaining to a practice which has evolved since then.
The Catholic church continues to teach on the revelations of God’s Word and we trust them in that. Over time, they gain a deeper understanding of the meaning of certain letters, stories and they reflect the deeper understanding by changing the norms by which we worship.
When they removed the requirement to cover our heads it was because they came to a new understanding of a past practice. To continue the practice, for me, would be to reject the Church’s teaching and deeper understanding of the faith.
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bear06
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netmil(name removed by moderator):
BTW, did the Church used to quote Corinthians when the head covering rule was in effect? I’m still curious to know about why Corinthians goes on to say:
And you carry these both with you 24/7? You see where I’m going with this? I’m pretty sure there many occasions where people spontaneously pray without there chapel caps on. How about Grace? Even the SSPXers I know don’t throw it on when they say Grace or ask God to grant them more patience. If we actually had to where a head covering everytime we prayed, a whole lot less praying would be done. I can think of a few times this week where I wouldn’t have been able to throw on a chapel cap to pray. Do you suggest that we just forget it in these circumstances.
BTW, did the Church used to quote Corinthians when the head covering rule was in effect? I’m still curious to know about why Corinthians goes on to say:
Anyways, it would seem that those who think that we MUST wear head coverings because of the Corinthians verse should think that we should be wearing them 24/7 in case the need to pray arose unexpectedly. Our Church definitely doesn’t bind us to do this.
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bear06
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I’m sure that there are some women who would but that’s certainly not the reason I don’t wear one. My explanation is way to long waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy to long to give again but the short version is that it would be a distraction for me. I am submissive and definitely not a feminist.
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paramedicgirl
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netmil(name removed by moderator):
netmil(name removed by moderator):
No, I wear my scapular under my shirt. But it shows through my white uniform issued shirt. I wear it anyway, and if anyone were to ask me what it is, I would tell them it is a sacramental of the Catholic Church, and a sign of devotion to the Holy Mother of God.
netmil(name removed by moderator):
Of course it would be enough, and I commend you for wearing one. I simply meant that it is not neccessary to coordinate the chapel cap to match one’s dress. And the outward sign of interior humility I mentioned is to show it to God, not to the the world
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netmilsmom
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Where exactly is the Cannon Law that removed the requirement to cover our head? You’ve got me curious on this.
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netmilsmom
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This is the specific quotes about a veil…
But any woman who prays or prophesies with her head unveiled brings shame upon her head, for it is one and the same thing as if she had had her head shaved.
For if a woman does not have her head veiled, she may as well have her hair cut off. But if it is shameful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should wear a veil.
Note how it says that if a woman does not have her head veiled, she may as well cut her hair off?
Her hair, according to this USCCB site, showed that she was not a lesbian nor prostitute, in that day.
However by stating that if she does not have her head veiled she may as well cut her hair, shows how important it is.
usccb.org/nab/bible/1corinthians/1corinthians11.htm
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netmilsmom
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Me too!
Oh I didn’t mean it was neccessary either.
I was just looking for a way for the ladies who would like to cover their heads to think outside the box.
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bear06
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netmil(name removed by moderator):
Now I’m sure you’ll go on to argue further. Let me know if Jimmy Aking missed one of your arguments in this article: jimmyakin.org/2004/07/head_coverings_.html
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Now I’m sure you’ll go on to argue further. Let me know if Jimmy Aking missed one of your arguments in this article: jimmyakin.org/2004/07/head_coverings_.html
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bear06
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netmil(name removed by moderator):
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bear06
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netmil(name removed by moderator):
Now on to the serious stuff…netmil(name removed by moderator), you failed to address this part of my post:
I don’t know if anyone is quibbling over hat vs. veils but my Pope Leo XIII age Bible says “not covered” not “unveiled”. Found that interesting.
Now on to the serious stuff…netmil(name removed by moderator), you failed to address this part of my post:
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Joseph_Bilodeau
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netmil(name removed by moderator):
Men wearing Hats in Church thread:
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netmilsmom
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Actually, I have chosen to wear a scarf most times.
For formal prayer I put a chapel cap on top.
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netmilsmom
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Joseph Bilodeau:
Well that about says it all.
Thank you Joseph!
Well that about says it all.
Thank you Joseph!
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netmilsmom
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bear06 said:
Two questions
- Why are you so hostile about this?
- Why are women required to cover their heads to see the Pope?
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Pandora
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I always wore a hat to Church. My mother had matching hat’s to our good coats and it just stuck. I starting picking out hats myself at 10 and I have them for all my coats. I even wear them without a coat (skin cancer).
I go to the TLM. It is not demanded but they do prefer women to cover their head’s. Most do, a few don’t, only if the viel nazi is there is it a problem (she get’s told to leave quite a bit for harassing women). I wear a hat with my coat but switch to a veil as I get hot. My veil covers all my hair to my shoulders, just my bangs peak out. I keep my veil in my purse with my rosary beads and have a spare in the car just in case (sometimes my mother comes with me). Most of the family’s are huge in my Church and they tend to keep the veils in the car so they don’t forget. Since most of us have backup they always have someone to borrow from.
Since our admin won’t let us have adoration a group of us go to another Church (NO) that is centrally located and we wear our veils. During the most recent 40 hours of adoration by the second night the veiled population increased quite a bit. I guess all the other women were just waiting to feel confortable about bringing them out.
I say if it feels right to wear one then do it. Anyone who criticizes you it is really their problem and not your’s. I have to say the only people who ever question my veil or modest dress are women and not men. We really are our own worst enemies.
My best friend is muslem(not practicing) and she loves to send her family pix of me with the veil. Her mother has sent me some lovely head scarves that I wear to Church.
I go to the TLM. It is not demanded but they do prefer women to cover their head’s. Most do, a few don’t, only if the viel nazi is there is it a problem (she get’s told to leave quite a bit for harassing women). I wear a hat with my coat but switch to a veil as I get hot. My veil covers all my hair to my shoulders, just my bangs peak out. I keep my veil in my purse with my rosary beads and have a spare in the car just in case (sometimes my mother comes with me). Most of the family’s are huge in my Church and they tend to keep the veils in the car so they don’t forget. Since most of us have backup they always have someone to borrow from.
Since our admin won’t let us have adoration a group of us go to another Church (NO) that is centrally located and we wear our veils. During the most recent 40 hours of adoration by the second night the veiled population increased quite a bit. I guess all the other women were just waiting to feel confortable about bringing them out.
I say if it feels right to wear one then do it. Anyone who criticizes you it is really their problem and not your’s. I have to say the only people who ever question my veil or modest dress are women and not men. We really are our own worst enemies.
My best friend is muslem(not practicing) and she loves to send her family pix of me with the veil. Her mother has sent me some lovely head scarves that I wear to Church.
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